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"It was a Fun Time, Educational and Well Worth It."

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9.7
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10.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
March 28, 2008
it was a fun time, educational and well worth it. Every speaker was willing to put in the time and effort to help everyone learn, both on stage and in private, and that was VERY cool of them. All of the 'stars' were extremely polite to everyone, and no grumbling or attitude about signing books or taking photos with us. I didn't do the evening sessions with instructors, so I can't comment on that.

The only thing that could have been done better was club selection. For those not in conference, we were sent to Mood the first night, and Vanguard the second night. After waiting in line a while at 10pm at Mood, I noticed the other line patrons were almost all men. Then a HUGE 50 passenger bus pulled up, almost entirely men, and filed in to the club in front of us. I don't care for sausage-fests, so I left. The next night, were were on 'The List' at Vanguard. We got there, waited in line only to be told 'we are not going to let 7 guys in here, you are going to have to buy bottle service', which started at $600 with tax/tip. We paid that, and was told by other guys inside that cover for individuals is only $25. This was a loud techno club, the only place that anyone could speak and be heard was the outside area, where is was raining sporaticly. But the worst problem was this was also a sausage-fest, I would say almost 80% male. A saw maybe a dozen women all night not there with boyfriends, so it was generally a wasted night. I talked to a few people that went out with Mystery on that night to another club, and they had the same situation - few women, and music so loud they could not hear Mystery talk. I don't understand why more research wasn't done on the clubs we were sent to, there HAS to be a place in the area that will let guys in for under $100/ea and have a somewhat more even male/female ratio.
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"Thim sure this aint the Last Time Run into the VA Team Again"

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9.6
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10.0
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9.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2008
If you asked me a week ago if id pay to go a MM bootcamp and role with Mystery for £3000 or whatever it is, the answer would be HELL NO. but I gotta tell ya, today if you'd ask me the answer would be a HELL YES!. This is ain't no [BS]. The guys the real deal. Everything he talks about he demos. As he put it. his method isn't the right way, just he's method. The Mystery Method and its what works for him so he teaches it. He has a lot of love for all the different coaches and training schools out there.

I just want to say, THANK YOU to my boy Discovery for giving me the chance to be part of the team. If it weren't for him, then non of it would be possible. I'm sure this ain't the last time I'll run into the VA team again and I feel its gonna kickoff pretty big in the UK. I just need to get my game up to speed as Mystery would say.

Next stop will have to be Hollywood and the playboy mansion (sorry guys, cant help adding some DHV spikes) HAHAHAHAHA.
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"Truly Changed My Life"

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9.5
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10.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
March 01, 2007
As for my personal success, of the 9 sets that I opened, I managed to number-close 5 girls over the two nights. Interestingly enough, two of these girls number-closed ME when they sensed that I might be leaving the set. This is something that Matador taught me how to do through body language. It worked very well.

I was able to stay in set for a long time and I never had a blow-out. Two of the girls that I number closed came from seated mixed sets that held two guys and one girl. This experience elevated my confidence tremendously. Interestingly enough, it was one of these girls that had asked me for my number. Her reason, and I quote: You are just so brave and come talk to our group and try to get me. I told her that her ego may be a little too healthy and that I was really interested in the guys, but she wasn't buying it...*wink*

I did get an AMOG on the first night that was a complete ass and I lost the set. It was going really well up until he entered. He totally tooled me during my palm reading routine. I had no idea what to do and I could sense that I had lost the respect of the girls. I ejected from the set and immediately opened another set that was about 8 feet away. I felt that I had created enough social proof to enter the second set with relative ease. I was right, as they were happy to see me. JDog's demonstration the following night showed me how to handle an AMOG correctly, which I deeply appreciate.

I have called all three of the numbers that I entered into my phone. I have set up Day 2's with two of them. Of the other two girls that took my number, both have called me. One of them has somehow managed to score tickets to Saturday's hockey game and I am the lucky recipient of the second ticket (I told her that we should scalp the tickets and jump on a plane to Aruba...). Next week should prove to be VERY interesting.

As I said earlier, with respect to the Workshop, I feel as though it was I that scored the deal. The VA instructors are truly under-charging for their time and their material. I took 77 pages of notes over the weekend. My finger still hurts from the damn pen (since the advent of the computer, a pen rarely touches my hand). These were not notes on one of those standard hotel room pads. These notes were on a full letter-sized yellow pad. Even with all the notes that I took and the experiences that I had, I believe that I have only begun to scratch the surface of what Matador, JDog and Mystery can teach me. When I mentioned this to Matador, he told me that he is available 24/7, just send him an email and he will answer all of my questions. He is truly interested in our progress and continued success.

I do not know what "Workshops" from other companies are like. I can only assume that they do offer some value, since 90% of the competing companies are run by Mystery's former students (that should tell you something). However, I will assure you that attending a Venusian Arts Workshop will change your life. Anytime you have the opportunity to spend three days, in an intimate setting, with the people who are the best on the planet at what they do, you TAKE IT. I did, and I will never look back.

Matador, JDog and Mystery truly changed my life, and for this, I will be forever grateful.
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"This Event Was Big!"

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9.5
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
October 01, 2009
This event was big! The second I got online to register, I got to chat with the other students a bit. Got comfortable right away. I even joked around, "Hey I opened my first set of the day"! I felt like I knew Mystery and Matador for years since I've watched them on tv, online, etc. The interesting thing was, that they treated me the same way! So did Discovery and the other coaches. Discovery began the day by telling us to smile!

Mystery, Matador and Discovery led a great class. I liked that they had us in groups to practice our routines.
I've been to clubs solo and not. So I don't know why I was nervous. Perhaps because I had new knowledge this time. Friday was... wow. So we got into our groups. The coach gave us some pointers and warm ups. We took turns opening sets. Some were better than others. Then it was my turn. The coach said I came in "too needy", which is my number 1 problem. I opened my first mix set that night. Got a dance here and there. Later I saw Mystery outside for some air. With girls around him of course. I studied how he kept them engaged just by the body language. When he came back in, he walked past my group and asked where are our smiles? Getting not so good vibes from this group. He saw that some of the students in my group were a bit nervous. Some got rejected hard. But skipping ahead real quick, we all did a complete 180 by the end of the night. I'll continue.

My coach came in and opened a set. He pulled me in and walked away. He told me to keep it going. So I did. I even moved the target away from her friends. I was like, wow they let her go off with me! I learned parts of the method through the book before. However I never pulled off anything like this before.

So while I was talking to her, the coach walked by and whispered things like "stack" "kino" etc... I did and she was getting really into me!! Mystery, Matador, Discovery and some of the students were sitting at the VIP table. All with girls (I think I remember Mystery had 2 on his lap). Now the thing is, for years I've been the guy at the other end of the room. I would watch these guys with girls all around them. And now, I was one of those guys! Kissing, hugging... I even number closed. I was worn out! Just the experience sitting at a table with these guys, fitting in and not observing... something I'll never forget.

I was looking forward to Saturday. The NY weather got most of us, I think. Some of us were fighting off colds. Myself included. Unfortunately since I was fighting my condition, my AA got the best of me in the field. I was nervous. Not a bad thing. Why? It helped me understand it. Let me explain. So I'm hanging out with some of the students in the hotel lobby (before the field training). Mystery pulls up a chair and joins us. He watched me do my opener. I showed signs of anxiety. Mystery drew my attention towards him and we started talking. Just talking. No subject. And he said that the way I was talking now, is exactly how I should be tonight. Discussing the game or not, he's just awesome to talk to! And I got the point. Shortly after, a sudden calm came over me.

In the field, I got hit with AA. Uh oh! But I sill approached sets. So my coach said to approach a sets even if they were 100% guys! It gets you into a talkative state.

All the coaches were great. They weren't pushy or anything like that. I told them what I wanted and they made me learn at my pace. I dont want to do shout outs because I do not want to miss anyone. It was a great investment. True sometimes these boot camps can be pricey. But it's worth it! My only complaint is that it was so much knowledge to absorb in so little time.
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"This was An Amazing Experience"

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9.4
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10.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
December 05, 2008
This was an Amazing Experince for me, to read Mystery Method is simply a must for anyone. i was the type of guy who put others before myself and trying to please everybody to the point that i actually had no idea who i was. in my old mindset i was thinking wow this is alot of money for me especialy with the holidays right around the corner, well needless to say i heard in my head what Mystery said in the first season to spoon " i can only open doors for you i can't pull you thru them" and so my journey began this Seminar was way beyond the book, Mystery and Matador were great they really opened my eyes, i spent my whole life thinking inside this little box and they just tore it wide open, if anyone wants to become apart of the PUA Universe, or just wants to better themselfs, than this Seminar is a Must. for thoes of you undecided on whether to attened this Seminar or not just remember this you can never put a price tag on knowledge, so why not invest in yourself, i did and i am so much better for it, Thanks Mystery and Matador.
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"Life-Changing"

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9.4
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • J-Dog (Justin Marks)
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
April 01, 2007
If there was a term to describe what this bootcamp was like, that term would be life-changing. There really is no other way to describe it.

There theory and detail of the seminars went beyond anything you could ever read in a book or pickup in a DVD. Having both Matador and Mystery coach and critique everything from tonality to facial expressions to posture to lean-ins did more for my game than I ever could have imagined. The detail of explanation and the passion with which the techniques and theory were taught made the seminars alone worth the money.

The in-field instruction was phenomenal. Matador and Mystery abolished just about every one of my sticking points and showed me things that I could only ever have learned by watching them in-field.

Matador was awesome. He is the king of body language, playfulness, and kino. His teaching completely changed my game. Having him direct and calibrate me while in a set was more powerful than any seduction book or video could ever hope to be. He is so alpha it's insane, and yet he still conveys a certain sensitivity that sets seem to adore.

Seeing Mystery in field was like watching a force of nature: what's happening right in front of your eyes is so amazing that you can't quite believe that you're actually witnessing it. This is a man who exudes charisma and sexuality in such a way that most people cannot help but be drawn to him. Every negative thing I had ever heard or read about him was wiped out within the first ten minutes of meeting him. Anyone who says Mystery doesn't have it is either jealous or has no idea what they're talking about. Being near him felt like being around a celebrity. You could see that feeling be telegraphed to nearby sets he hadn't even opened yet. His ability to pull sets, AMOG or befriend obstacles, create kino and DHV are beyond anything I have ever seen before. He really does have a super power.

JDog was no slouch either. I only got to see him do a couple of sets, but the ones I saw were throwing IOIs like mad! And seeing him tool an aggressive AMOG was absolutely hilarious. He has the presence of a rock star. You feel cool just being near him.

On top of everything else, this seminar wiped out just about every fear I ever had about pickup. I opened a set with the same opener someone else had ran and recovered without any trouble. I had a wing try to run the same routine I had just ran and was able to catch him in time without suspicion. Matador even told a set that I was a pickup artist, and, thanks to what I had learned, I still k- and #-closed the target using textbook game. How cool is that?

It would take years to accomplish on my own the things I accomplished through this bootcamp. I recommend it to anyone and everyone who wants to get good at the game insanely fast.
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"One of the Most Powerful Things You Could Learn in Your Lifetime"

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9.3
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10.0
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8.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
June 01, 2009
So this was my first Bootcamp ever and this was also the first time that I would be leaving the State's (Philly). I started reading a couple of Mystery's books right after the first season of the PUA so I like to think I had some decent game going in to this, besides the day you think you know everything you know nothing.

Let me start off by saying before coming to the Bootcamp I had a few sticking points but just having the class time and being able to ask specific questions face to face with a Master PUA like Mystery. And know your getting a quality answer, because of his great reputation that alone is worth the money. Also their was a point in class where Discovery illustrated how important conversational threads with DHV spikes were. I mean I knew they where important but he really broke it down by saying if your mostly just getting attraction by neging and being playful then that is not real attraction. Because you are just pumping buying temp and your coming off as a clown amusing her. And i never looked at it like that before but he is right.

Being out in the field with Mystery and learning from him was a pleasure to say the least. You can tell this is not just a job to him or just something he does you can tell he really wants you to get this stuff. During class time he would go above and beyond to make sure you understood.Even on are breaks from class if you had a question he would be more then happy to help you out. He truly has a positive energy about him that warms your heart when you are around him. He has a great outlook on life and you feel that positive energy when he gives his views.

Some of the great moments for me was when we were in field at Roof Gardens and I was locked in up against a wall with 2 HB9's and during the set in a time span of 10 min Discovery, Mystery, and Moonlight all came up to my set at different times to AI me sending my value through the roof lol. All the support was awesome and it made me realize the power of working together. Like Mystery says their is room at the top for all of us. Also when I pulled my girl over to the VIP section Mystery came up to me and said can I speak to you for a moment. He congratulated me on the beautiful girl and told me I need to get her to chase me a little gave some pointers and before I knew it we where making out! Then sure enough here comes Discovery to assist me on my bounce with a great gambit and sure enough bounce her to a late night fast food place then bounce her back to my hotel room. Witch reminds me I like to give a shout out to my great wingman and friend Youngjedi for being a great sport about that whole situation.

Moonlight was a great instructor he has such a positive vibe out in the field that other people just love to be around and it was so easy to open sets with him as your wing because his great vibe always keep the set engaged.
Caddy paired up with me the very first night at the Embassy club we both agreed that we were a great team. But his ability to multiple thread far surpassed mine it was amazing! I hope that I can reach that level one day thanks Caddy.

Annika I never got to work with her infield and I have to say that was my only regret. Because I got alot of feedback from other PUA's (Crunx) who said she was awesome to have as a wing. And also the few conversations I had with her on how to run day game during our breakout session was amazing she gave great advice because hello she is a women. Who knows women better then a women. That is one of my top goals now to work with Annika and pick her brain as much as I can.

Discovery had a great presence infield he has such a playful vibe. But when its time to get to business its business. He taught alot of the day game and he showed us his own notes he had and they where precise and even color coded. This showed me his dedication to the game and why he was so good.

For me the seminar was not even a question if I should take it or not. I am not saying it is not alot of money because it is but to me this is one of the most powerful things you could learn in your lifetime. This will help you with every aspect of your life because it is teaching you to socialize with humanity this means both men and women. It will also help In your job (wealth), in your relationships (love), and how you take care of yourself (Health). What this is really teaching you is the game of life. I mean these social cues are happening all the time either you see these cues or you dont either your playing the game or not. But whether you know the game or not its still going on with or without you so like for me it was no question it was time to get in the game of life.

Last but not least to the great friendships I made Shout outs especially to Mohammed, Crunx, Youngjedi, and the rest of the London June09 group.
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"These Guyz will Shake ur Reality, Change and Expand It"

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9.3
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10.0
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8.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2009
Mystery

Ok do i need 2 say anything? no really like he is mystery - i ve seen him in action - this guy is the best at what he does - no doubt about that - ive seen it with my own eyes:) - he goes into set talks about some shit and next thing u know girls are all over him - u lost mystery in a club? - no worries go and find the hottest hired gun and ull find mystery under her - im only half kidding:)) - and his seminar: in 2 days he will teach u more about pickup that in 6 months of learning theory and gr8 stuff about it that he takes all ur limiting beliefs away - he shows that this stuff is really true, motivates u in such a way that it is very likely 2 change ur life...
do i think u need 2 attend his bootcamp? - what u still didnt go and book the next one???!!!:)

Discovery!
The man who revealed me the power of smile! :D

unfortunately i didnt get to be ur student in field but still i remember u teaching me the theory... actually 2 be honest i dnt know u that well - i mean i know about mystery a lot cz i read about him a lot and also observed him, i spent quite a time with moonlight and annika, i heard a lot about caddy from my bro... but i didnt really get to know u... well let me tell u the stuff that i do know - i can see u putting every single technique that mystery teaches u in action... - u dnt skip a step - like im pretty sure that there a lot of people that know no less than u, but U r the guy who brings everything in action... - sth i admire about u: after all it is not about how much u know it is about ur willingness 2 go there and make it happen. I also see that u r quite a self disciplined man - when i look at u i can see how much work u have done and how much u will achieve just because of ur willingness 2 do the necessary work. And with all that in ur mind knowing that hard work u have ahead of u, u r the guy who goes and rocks the place - u enjoy life, enjoy urself and make people around u feel the same - and the thing that allows u 2 do that is in my opinion - ur frame of mind - u see life, learning, work - everything like fun, world is your playground and ur abilities are limitless... - i can see a lot of people impoving their lives by learning from u...

dnt forget 2 smile;)

Moonlight

Hey there my man Jeremy!:)
Man u were g8!:) - i mean im gonna skip stuff that u va coaches have in common like being able to own the room and any girl u choose but besides that there were couple of things u have that i dnt think anybody else does: - whenever i felt down u suddenly came and gave me energy boost - by ur own energy level being so high! - u showed understanding, quickly identified problems needing fixing, told what 2 do and overall u showed that u r there 4 us (ur students) - that is exactly the kind of buddy i would want in a field to back me up and the one i am 4 my friends from now on - i really appreciate that u did that. Also i can say that u make any person feel so at an ease while sociating with u there isnt even single shadow of discomfort or pressure - something really gr8 about u.

Ok i really enjoyed ur coaching... - if u ever in london u can always count on me - on anything and im serious

U r the SHIT ;)

Caddy

I wasnt really ur student but i saw u in field and my bro told me a lot of good stuff about u - how u helped him in field, whispering 2 his ear what 2 say - and how girls responded 2 that (response was good -my bro said:) - pointing his mistakes right there and how u overall were the best mixture of buddy and coach he ever had! - respect bro:)

Beckster

I dunno how he does it - u feel his high valueness, without any question or even shadow of this thought he was leader of our group, telling us what 2 do - exuding charisma and confidence - and if u r wondering about his game - let me tell u he is smooth i saw him with some beautifull 9s and 10s:) - seriously this guy is born 2 be leader - if his name wont stay in history (like Beckster The Gr8! :P) im willing 2 change my nickname!;) - go and learn from him asap - this is my advice!)

Annika

Without a doubt one of the most dangerous girls out there - man if she liked u u dnt really have a choice in the matter - in addition 2 her being cute she is quite a powerfull pua:) - luckily 4 us she specializes on rockstars:)) - but back 2 coaching: really sweet, friendly and supportive coach - everybody liked her, she was quite a nice wingwoman - ull enjoy her company - btw annika - u r the coach who taught me the power of passion - i mean i knew it all in theory but u showed it 2 me - how attractive and irresistable it can be - i did devote one of my projects just 2 ability of eliciting any feelings i want - btw it is already helpfull in this early stage:)

Overall these guyz will shake ur reality, change and expand it in way u never thought possible:))

- enjoyed the bootcamp
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"Lonely Days Are Over"

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2009
This was a life changing experience. The seminar was well sturctured, clearly presented, and a tremendous amount of fun. I now understand how this all works and why it works, and now that I am no longer in the dark with my questions, I am out and about working on my personality and meeting lots of women. Seeing mystery matador and Lovedrop in field is a must, you need to see it to really believe it. In a corner of a club, they will create a buzz that brings girls over to them like magnets, they share love around the room and they are welcomed into warm embraces and kisses. It was something I thought did not exist, but it does exist! They were very helpfull, sharing, cool guys, I wish I could hang out with them cause their way of being is warm, happy, positive and playfull. They are cool, they really are, and they pull girls like you wouldnt believe if you didnt see it. Mystery is an amazing storyteller, listening to him talk is a pleasure, I remember feeling admiration and respect for his ability and his character. What a dude. Matador is a rock n roller. He takes over the club and is picking up girls and kissing cheeks and creating a story in the club, like captain jack sparrow is in the house, the girls dig him. Discovery was cool, he is from England as am I and he was an alpha dude with skills, the girls were into him as well. On top of that, the guys would bring girls to us and introduce us to seriously fit LA women. How often does that happen in normal life, never thats when. What can I say, I am truly impressed and motivated to create this for myself. Matadors inner game presentation was so helpful to me, and the club demos were extraordinary, and God bless them for teaching this, that is a blessing from God, I feel it in my being that stressful lonely days are over.
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"Starts the Many Changes in My Life"

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
  • Prophet (VA)
Date Program Took Place:
September 19, 2008
Wow what an experience.

I too was expecting a much larger group of students and a more conference style seminar. However when I got there and realized it was a small group of us I was even more excited. While the seminars were long and covered a lot of information by the end of the weekend it was all starting to come together and 'click'. Mystery and Matador just have this way of keeping your attention on everything they are trying to teach. Saturday's day game opportunity was incredible. Spillz and Prophet did an awesome job of throwing me into sets and giving advice on what could be done better. There were no excuses for not approaching sets; can't pick an opener? they'd give it to you and start the 3 second count. Being able to pick Mystery and Matador's brain in an intimate setting combined with everything else that occured this weekend was amazing. 2 months from now I know I'm going to look back and realize that this weekend is what jump started the many changes in my life that I am now implementing.

What a great way to spend the last weekend of the summer!
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