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"Life Changing Weekend"

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9.1
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Knack (VA)
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
Date Program Took Place:
October 01, 2007
First and for most thank to Matador, Brock, Hawaii and Super Knack( thats right super)

I must say the show is an understatement to the things that these guys can do, especially when you are up close and watching things in demo mode. Matador does make things look so easy in set, but at the same time there is alot of mechanics to what he's doing it really in mayhem when he's in set
For example ( Imagine you are grinding on one girl, then your merging the set and your gaming another girl at that) At one point there was Time when Matador was going straight cave man on this girl that had fake tits, he was so f*cking good that he rubbed his face in her tits. ( and yes he will teach you how to go straight caveman) Overall he had us on the edge of our seat with his lecturing skills. He brought his material alive in the classroom, by making sound do clear.

On to my man Brock, Who I felt his style in very reminiscent of how I think I will be in time. We both dance, which was sick and he has this charasmatic game that I feel is hiding inside of me, He awokened my more playful side of game, telling me to smile more and be more playful. When I implemented this into my game It really worked like a charm. I got to spend alot of time with him in set on demo night. I took some of the routines that he has and I can't wait to use them here in NY.

Hawaii was a good lecturer, he was great for gambits, routines, negs and cocky and funny material. He was very focused on us on friday night which was good. And he literally forced us into sets which killed alot of AA. He demoed on time for us, he really showed us hoe to neg the shit out of a grl that threw alot of shit tests. One thing abut Hawaii is that he really keeps his cool.

To be honest theres gonna be a reason i keep this line short. If u meet him u'll know why I did. KNACK IS THE FUCKIN MAN. ( thank you bro for taking care of me all weekend.)

As for Friday night the club started of slow but as the night went on it started to fill up, My first set Matador coached me, I was using the routines, keeping this girl in awe. Matador literally came next to me and told me to do more kino, ( which is so crucial). Overall My friday was mediocre, Really didnt do to well only opening 5 sets, Brock and matador told me that I needed to KINO more and also locking in. My problem on friday was to get more into A3

Saturday was the complete opposite, Where I opened like 9 sets. Knack was the one who saw all of them. He was really coaching on satrday. But the way i Kinoed and locked in and handled the obstacles and everthing else was told to me was like poetry in motion, at least knack said that. I on the other hand know I could havedoone alot better, although i did number close. Remember Kosmo on the show when he had the two girls on his hands, that was me saturday night. It was really a complete turn around.

The one thing I wish I did have was a little more coaching from matador and brock on saturday, but I guess the thought I was fin, who knows.

The one thig that you should know about the bootcamps, they can turn out where everyone is occupied in set and your wanting a coach to watch you, dont get mad and just stand there. What you should do is just keep on opening sets.There are gonna be students that need more attention so donn't take it personal. I did but Im over it because irealized that I actually was fine.
There will be times when the instructors are occupied, and there's know one to coach you. Just grab your balls and open a set, and don't get mad

That was the one con about the bootcamp( more quality time) I wish there was more time management as well, So I do agree with music man.

But again I learned so much more by taking the boot camp than by reading a book or watching you tube. I cant wait to c u all again thaks fellas for this life changing weekend.
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"It Literally Changed My Life"

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9.1
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Date Program Took Place:
April 13, 2007
I think there is something in the bootcamp for everyone, regardless of that person's skill. Having some of the best guys in the game teaching you almost one-on-one how to get better was so powerful, it literally changed my life. You can study the material as many times as you like, but without understanding the application you may as well visit a brothel instead of a club. Lovedrop, Moxie, Metro and London Playboy gave me such a fast-tracked education of the Venusian Arts that I have to recommend the bootcamp to everyone. If you can't afford the cost, mortgage your house. It's that good.
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"If you Have the $$, You Have to Go and See It For Real."

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Knack (VA)
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
Date Program Took Place:
October 01, 2007
Thanx 2 Hawaii, Matador, Brock, and Knack (who is the bomb).

Bottom line, if you have the $$, you have to go and see it for real. The skills and art are something that need to be witnessed. Every instructor has crazy game and they are all mad cool. Matador's game is also all its hyped to be. I had the chance to bounce with him and two gurls on the second night and watch him run solid game. That in itself was worth the price of admission.

thanx: Thanx Hawaii for running the bootcamp, helping me one on one, and 4 being so cool! Thanx Brock and Knack for taking the time to work one on one with me each night and for helping me with my game.

Ultimate benefits: 1) All the instructors were crazy accessable and willing to share knowledge; 2) Meeting a lot of up and coming PUAs who are mad cool.
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"My Soul Felt Renewed!"

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
  • Prophet (VA)
  • Showcase (VA)
Date Program Took Place:
September 11, 2009
The Good
I had taken a bootcamp with another company (I won't name drop) and while it was very good, there is no trade off for experience and no one is more experienced then Mystery, period! He is without a doubt what I will refer to from now on as "The Standard for Greatness!" He helped me so much in field, out of field, and was such a cool guy to be around, I can't say enough good things about him. I would also like to thank the approach coaches Prophet and Showcase for all the help they provided in and out of field. It was a pleasure meeting you both and I really look forward to sarging with you guys again.
The Bad
VA didn't provide the name of the hotel the seminar was in until the day before the seminar. As I was flying in from Calgary (and told them months in advance I would be) it would have been nice to have been given a week or two's notice so I could have booked earlier and saved some money on my hotel room. Also, the first night in field we should have left the first club a lot sooner then we did as we had wrecked the room hence there being little amounts of sets. And finally, Mystery being in his home town with his celeb status meant him getting approached a lot! Guys wanting pictures with him, asking him questions did get really annoying, really fast but it comes with the territory so I dealt with it. Not the end of the world.
So, I should mention right off the bat I'm no stranger to this game. I've known about Mystery (and I've been one of his biggest fans) for about 2 years but only started serious sarging about a year ago. I had a lot of sticking points which I just couldn't resolve on my own so I turned to the best.

For the record, this was my first bootcamp with Venusian Arts, but not my first bootcamp (which I will get to later).

I remember sitting in the conference room chatting with the other students just anticipating Mystery's arrival. I was so anxious to meet this man I'd been admiring from a far through books, instructional videos, VH1, etc. And he did "not" disappoint. I think my heart actually skipped a beat when he walked in the room and introduced himself. Just the energy he brings with his presence and the way he talks is hypnotizing (but in a good way). The man is so passionate about this game and his method because he truly believes in it! And for good reason... it works.

Seminar
Mystery covered numerous topics from S & R, to the M3 motto, LMR, body language (with demonstrations), story telling, he even answered questions about people from the game and his TV show (where are they now?). And speaking of questions, Mystery answered every single question I threw at him (and I had a lot) in great depth and detail. I even got to walk downtown with him 1 on 1 and "shoot the shit" during a break.

In Field
Our first night out was slow due to the fact that the clubs were mostly dead. I think in total I got in 7 sets the first night (a good night is 10-12). Granted it didn't stop Mystery from # closing Nikki Benz (the porn star) right in front of me! The guy is so good its not even funny! Regardless, we bounced to a different club(a lot later then we should have) but the venue was so loud(and I can be very loud, I've had vocal training!) that a 2 set right next to me couldn't even hear me at my loudest! Luckily they had a patio that was much quieter so I was able to open another set and got to see Mystery game a very lovely bartender. From there, we left the club, walked back to the hotel and had a debrief.

The second night out was the real highlight of the weekend. We went to this sic club with a roof top patio and we really went to work. Mystery picked up a beautiful hired gun and showed me how to do the same. I had a shooter girl following me around all night (she came to see me after she was out of drinks) but I don't live in Toronto and was busy opening set after set. We really focused on being in state, hitting that preselection switch, merging, isolating (I was able to isolate this beautiful European girl for a half hour) and to really have fun. Because that's what it's all about. Feelings are contagious!!! After we left we took a cab back to the hotel, had our final debrief and said our goodbyes.

When it was all said and done, I felt like I had awoken from some crazy, awesome dream. My soul felt renewed! I remember getting off the plane when I got back to Calgary and trying to comprehend the weekend that had just transpired.

If you're possibly considering a bootcamp but aren't sure about spending the money, I will tell you right now it is worth every penny. Even if you're not as gung ho crazy as myself or some of the other guys in the game, maybe all you want is to find a beautiful girl to settle down with, you owe it to yourself to do so. You'll thank yourself in the long run. And trust me, you have no idea what you are truly capable of until you actually do it. For The Venusian Arts, impossible is nothing.
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"Overall, My Experience was Really Solid"

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2009
Overall, my experience was really solid. I would have loved to go in-field w/Mystery and the gang, and I hope I can down the line, but that's just too much money right now for this college student relying on his parents.

I expected Mystery to only be there actually teaching us for 45 minutes or a couple hours at the most, but he taught as much as if not more than anyone else, which was really cool to actually hear it from the legend and tap into his mind a little bit.

I figured Mystery might have somewhat of a big/celeb attitude, and that he'd want his space during breaks. Not so. I made a point of not following him when we all went to lunch the first day, but ended up running into him and the gang around the block, and about 6 of us ate lunch w/him & his group. He really is the guy you've seen on TV and read about, and he seems to genuinely want to help people-I had a couple of helpful one-on-one conversations w/him just out in the hall, and he's patient despite the fact that EVERYONE is pulling him in different directions.

I was also expecting big numbers of attendees but there were only 26 of us, and from what I could gather that was a pretty normal/almost full group. That was really nice, and it made things a lot more personal and conducive to questions and back-and-forth.

I'd read the Mystery Method, and there was a lot of repetition, but the way it was presented still taught me a lot and reinforced things I knew but hadn't really grasped.

The main drawback...was only a partial drawback. (Especially) Mystery tends to go off on tangents and into great, great detail, and sometimes I wished he could've been a little more concise so that we could've gone deeper into practical stuff in our limited time. However, a lot of his tangents had nuggets of wisdom in them, and a big part of the seminar was experiencing how he, Discovery, and others told stories & multiple threaded, gamed us, and interacted with each other while they taught. So that's a tough one, but a little better time management and getting into practicality would be good. Also, seminars starting/restarting late was a little annoying b/c I felt like I was losing valuable learning time, but they might've made up for some of that near the end.

As Mystery was, Discovery, Brandon, Derby, and everyone else was really great and I really felt that they wanted to do whatever they could to help us succeed.

I think it'd be good if they gave/suggested a little more reading out before so that 1) maybe the structure could be moved through slightly more quickly, and on the other hand 2) so that those that haven't read MM know more about the basics b/c I wouldn't have gotten as much out of it w/o the book. Also, more in-class exercises would be good.

I absolutely love that not only do attendees get access to the lounge on here, but in most cases what we paid for the seminar goes towards anything else we want to do down the line, and we can go to other seminars for a year for free.

The day game breakout w/Discovery was solid and I got a lot of good, practical material and advice out of that. Was definitely worth the money.
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"Very Well Worth It and the Offer They Have Know is Unbelivable"

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
November 01, 2009
When I first called Derby I was kind of nervous and anxious, specially because I recently decided to retire from game to become a little more "serious" (not the best choice) and stay with my current girlfriend for a year. This year I learnt a lot, I lost a lot of fear to do many things I wouldn't do before... like stopped smoking, stopped biting my nails, started talking to strangers, started defending my space... started my own business, etc. It was cool, it was nice, but it certainly wasn't enough

I mean before going I had read many books, articles, audio files and many many stuff.. I had bought more that I could read and still have plenty of material to read.

I am going to be very quick at the description of the bootcamp, because you guys should go and see for yourselves: This guys not only believe and practice what they teach, but they are so good at it that they can pull amazing game in field, even though they still have students (and I include myself a little bit on this one) that were not the best for gaming with.

If you are not good, it opens your eyes. If you are good, you definitely can learn a lot. Breakouts were amazing... especially the Zen of Cool. When you go to a bootcamp you will just have so much stuff to incorporate that its impossible to come back and be the same

Take care guys, and seriously, if you want a bootcamp I wouldn't wait, it is very well worth it and the offer they have know is unbelievable (and also a good excuse to Travel yo many places).
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"This is one of the Best things I have EVER done"

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
Knack (VA)
Date Program Took Place:
August 01, 2008
This was one of the best things I've ever done. I'll repeat that: This is one of the best things I have EVER done. I had debilitating AA (approach anxiety) for as long as I can remember. I was always the guy at the club with his hands in his pockets, leaning against the bar, talking to my AFC buds while staring at all the girls that I wanted to talk to but didn't have the courage to engage. And if I actually did magically work up the cohones to approach a woman, I would always sabotage myself before I even started because I would fumble my words, run out of things to say, and fall back on boring like Where did you grow up? What are you studying? Terrible.


Now, with the help of Mystery, Lovedrop, and others, I'm finally developing a skill set I can actually use. Reading this stuff is one thing, but learning it first-hand from the masters themselves and then seeing it complemented in the field is more helpful than I can describe on this forum. Mystery is an incredible teacher I really think he found his calling. The charisma and charm that he puts into his game carries over into the classroom, making everything he teaches all the more interesting. He's so excited and passionate about the venusian arts, that it just pumps everyone else up to venture into the field where the positive energy really pays off. Anyone with an ounce of skepticism would have to doubt the veracity of some of the things he teaches. But seeing is believing this is for real. Mystery, Lovedrop, Alex, Knack, and Cuisine stormed the club like it was Normandy. Opening, attraction, comfort-building, seduction, and closing I saw it all multiple times each night.

As for me, the first night, I opened 10 sets and number-closed two girls. The second night, I lost count of how many sets I opened, and I kiss-closed a girl. Alex taught me some dance game ( his specialty), and even gave me an opener that eventually led me to kiss-closing that girl (Thanks Alex!). Each one of the instructors has their own specialty, and was able to impart unique knowledge to the students. But the one instructor that I really have to give it up for is Cuisine. He basically spent all night both nights just walking through the club with some of the other students and myself, and pointing out sets for us to open, and critiquing our game. He's an expert at body language, and was able to tell how we were doing in each set instantly. He was also available to answer questions about day game and social game, his specialties.

In the end, I learned a ton, was started on the path to a more fulfilling sex life, and made some good friends (aka future wings) in the process. More than worth the price of admission. I would recommend boot camp to anyone who is serious about this process.
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"I Couldn't Think of a Better Way to Spend My Money"

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
February 01, 2008
Just wanted to comment on the DC Bootcamp. I am Married.....I have been interested in the community ever since I read the game a couple of years ago. I went with my Bro who is recently divorced mainly to wing with him and learn how to apply the social dynamics of the community to business. Anyone who thinks they have game has got to go to a bootcamp.....you will learn to push yourself in ways you never knew. I guarantee that if you think you are already well versed on the art of the pickup these guys will blow you away with their knowledge and confidence. Mystery was a machine....great guy, very friendly, passionate, and knows exactly what he is doing. Hawaii was a strong instructor.......knows his stuff and has great confidence in his game. I couldn't think of a better way to spend my money than to take one of the boot camps. It will give you confidence and the ability to talk to almost anyone even if you aren't using it to pick up ladies.
Kudos also to Joe D., Knack, Lovedrop, and of course the man himself Mystery.
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"They Put Me in Such Higher Level."

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
December 01, 2009
Maimi beach bootcamp it was incredible I was expecting a few guy It blow my mind see soo many peolpe and sharing the same common problem and goal

Participant: Cool guy willing to go out and sarging all day. I make very good friend for now on from diferent part of USA and the most important willing to help each other out.

Teachers:
Discovery: To me from that friday on he will be Mr. Kino he show me more in 30 sec of interaccion with my target that any video in 2 years. My respect Discovery I use yours recomendation all the time for now on. I miss your class on day game and fashon a regreat it for life (Don't miss it guy).

Colgate: Mr body language thank men that 1 on 1 help me see and repair all my faulty interaccion. "Hold court my friend" "Don't lean in" "soundbite"

Mo: I learn so much about the structure of the game thank to you and make natural for me.

Derby: Cool guy what I can say Derby. The seminare without Derby will not be seminare and all the proyect to come. We still in contact Derby.

Mystery: Master of Masters see you in video don't pay good respect to you. You are soo natural in your interaccion, and helpfull you are willling to teach every thing to anyone regard of level. Go sarging with you was an adventure
I can go on on on all day.

Guy for you that are reading this I saw all the video I read the book.
You have to do the seminare I feel like I have graduate.
They put me in such higher level.
The ony regreat not be able to take sunday class and hang out more with they every single sec was a learning experince.
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"It Was Worth Every Dime"

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Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2009
let me just begin by saying how awesome it was to learn this stuff from Kosmo, he was a great instructor and he was very helpful and really help break it down in such a way the other guys and me could understand perfectly. So to start off, Friday day: we practice day game with Dionysus, great instructor and he was catching our mistakes and helping us so much, stuff from so simple as "pecking" to forgetting to ftc and not body rocking. he taught us so much stuff the first day you could just tell he had knowledge and a great understanding of pick up and wanted to share it with everyone, great teacher and such a nice guy. some of the stuff im still just "like wow how did he come up with that?" friday night roles up very fast, and kosmo and techno slaughter arrive, Kosmo just had a great energy about him he just like can make you smile and feel good about yourself and i could see it from everyone else in the bootcamp they felt the same way. techno slaughter just was so knowledgeable and kept me going even when i was doubting myself in field. Kosmo does some improv with us and gets fired up and we hit the field.


Friday night in field, kosmo and techno slaughter and Dionysus take us to a awesome club were VIP which was great. me and the students kept opening girls and getting good responses but kosmo shows us how to do it and throws us into set right away, which was what we all needed.As soon as i got down at anytime and felt a bit bad techno slaughter came over and got me back up and gave me great advice and even direction on how to open correctly, Dionysus was always right behind me catching me on my mistakes as kosmo was helping the other guys, even at one point Dionysus came over when i blew a two set and threw back into another two set before i could let the bad emotion get to me. so it was a great night and i retained a lot.

Saturday was all Kosmo, he drilled everything into our heads until i thought my head was going to explode. he just had so much knowledge and even after our time was up he just kept going and going, just so knowledgeable. you could tell he was passionate about this and wanted to get us to be dedicated to it too.


Saturday night was something you have to see for yourself. kosmo and techno slaughter were throwing all us into sets and showing us how to do it and i remember several times, going into set with kosmo passing behind me instructing me to do kino or kiss close, even stopped what he was doing to show me ioi's. well we all kissed close the girls we were talking to so all the guys in the boot camp felt a big change. techno slaughter warmed us up before we went out to the clubs and got us amped up and so did kosmo. techno slaughter kept us going and amped up. he also kept the sets going when i are the other guys kept messing it up or blowing the sets completely and all the instructors showed us how to bounce the girls and move to comfort locations. kosmo showed me especially when he bounced a beautiful girl and i bounced her friend and i totally screwed it up but he showed me my mistakes and showed me how to avoid making them again. Dionysus kept a eye on all of us and kept us from making body language mistakes. even passed by and with kosmo they both helped me kiss close this hot girl with the camera. thanks again if you and kosmo are reading this. so it was a great night and learned alot

Sunday was a follow up of saturday night were Kosmo reviewed everything we did wrong and right with the girls we talked to. we finished up everything else and kosmo helped us with our identities and dhv stories and grounding stories, he made sure we had great dhv stories and grounding stories before we left. kosmo made sure we had a great grasp on everything before we left. i really appreciate kosmo and techno slaughter and Dionysus they showed us so much and helped us, it was worth every dime and i'd love to do another boot camp with them. i recommend a boot camp with kosmo to anyone who is thinking about taking one from him. thanks again guys.
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