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"Starts the Many Changes in My Life"

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9.3
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
  • Prophet (VA)
Date Program Took Place:
September 19, 2008
Wow what an experience.

I too was expecting a much larger group of students and a more conference style seminar. However when I got there and realized it was a small group of us I was even more excited. While the seminars were long and covered a lot of information by the end of the weekend it was all starting to come together and 'click'. Mystery and Matador just have this way of keeping your attention on everything they are trying to teach. Saturday's day game opportunity was incredible. Spillz and Prophet did an awesome job of throwing me into sets and giving advice on what could be done better. There were no excuses for not approaching sets; can't pick an opener? they'd give it to you and start the 3 second count. Being able to pick Mystery and Matador's brain in an intimate setting combined with everything else that occured this weekend was amazing. 2 months from now I know I'm going to look back and realize that this weekend is what jump started the many changes in my life that I am now implementing.

What a great way to spend the last weekend of the summer!
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"I Was Blown Away By This"

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9.3
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
December 01, 2009
When i got to the bootcamp, i was pretty uncomfortable. who wants to sit around with a bunch of weird guys that can't get laid for a couple of days? i've already got quite a bit of game, but i wanted to take it to the next level.

first mystery came in and he was pretty odd. he had a ski hat pulled down too low over his eyes and he just talked kind of strange. i was thinking "oh boy, what am i in for.."

here's what happened:
- discovery did some sessions which were awesome. he's a bright guy and an engaging speaker. he and i had some alpha "back and forth", which was good natured and he gave me some excellent, direct feedback which i really appreciated. he was also REALLY helpful when we went out.
- mystery turned out to be the NICEST, COOLEST guy on the planet. i thought he would be hugely intimidating, in fact he was the total opposite.
- in one set i was in that went bad, mystery -- without even directly looking - sensed that it had gone bad, and came and pulled me out. i've never had anyone save me from a bad set before and i was really grateful. the level of social intuition he had was really astonishing.
- the dynamic was really fun and respectful and cool. instead of it being a group of weird guys, it was a group of fun people figuring out how to get better at life. its hard to understand this unless you actually experience it -- i certainly didn't before i was there. it was a very positive environment, one i want to be part of.
- colgate showed me some awesome stuff on handling presence in clubs, and i got to see how powerful it was. he's very very good at it.
- mo was a great coach, always jumping in with helpful suggestions on basic things i was screwing up and didn't even realise.

but by far the most important aspect of the bootcamp was seeing the guys in "entourage game", particularly Discovery. they pulled in a bunch of hot chicks and were just having fun talking and playing with them. to see how that worked and then have the dynamics explained afterwards was incredibly powerful.

how helpful was all this?

well i was travelling after the bootcamp and only got back last night. i went out right away and applied the concepts, creating my own entourage with a helpful pivot on her birthday party. sets flew open all over the place. i guess i had at least 10 sets open simultaneously and tons of girls opening me to talk with me. I was "the flame" most of the night (until i ran out of material LOL).

I WAS BLOWN AWAY BY THIS. I have *NEVER* done that before. and it was SO EASY. normally i work to open the girls, now they were opening me!

My big takeaway is: if you're just sitting here on the forums, studying game and gradually getting a bit better - you're missing out on a HUGE amount of how the game actually works. You're really doing things the hard way. You MUST go and spend time with the venusian arts guys, it is the ONLY way you will fill in the missing gaps. I guarantee there are gaps in your game you don't even realise you have, but they are there and they are causing you to lose the really high quality girls you want. One weekend bootcamp could save you 2 years of studying on here -- and make sure you get your dream girl. Its really that simple. are you willing to risk losing her? (maybe i will get her instead LOL).

5 stars.. i intended to go to just one bootcamp and be done -- but now and i will definitely go to the next couple of bootcamps, because there is clearly more to learn.

one other thing -- much of these skills can be applied to BUSINESS too. i also expect to get a massive ROI on a business standpoint, making the bootcamps a trivial investment.
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"Mystery & Discovery as a team - good mix!!"

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9.3
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
May 15, 2009
Personally, I enjoyed the little small talk times having a smoke with Mystery (I think I was the only smoker Lucky me). I learnt lots from just those 5 minutes while puffing away. To be taught personally by Mystery and Discovery was a privilege, having them whisper in your ear infield - totally awesome!
The bootcamp was worth every cent paid... and then some! Not only do you meet great people and learn the art of pickup, you get taught strategies and tactics that allow you to really have Jedi mind control game pieces.

Mystery & Discovery as a team - a good mix!! Discovery has this high energy, playful with great expressions, delivery and humor! Mystery, the cool, intriguing magician and just perfect delivery, together they made a great team to learn from both, it allows the students to have the ability to integrate the two to develop a nice balance!
To be taught by them personally and to get advice from them infield was worth the investment. The amount of knowledge gained and the opportunity to attend other bootcamps was a nice surprise.

Thanks guys, good times...You will be seeing more of me!
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"The Bootcamp Brought Up My Game Immensely"

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9.3
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2008
I was lucky enough to get Matador's help on 2 nights with many 1 on 1's, and yes you just need to ask because they are ALWAYS in set, amazing.

Would have liked to see a bit more kino escalating tips in the normal seminar since not everyone can get all the break out sessions as well. Only just learnt real ways of k-closin from PUA season 2.

But overall just like you the bootcamp brought up my game immensely.
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"Greatly Exceeded My Expectations"

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9.3
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
August 24, 2007
The Venusian Arts Mystery Special Training Workshop Bootcamp greatly exceeded my expectations. Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador not only provide students with incredible social dynamics knowledge and valuable insights on developing the pick up arts skillset, but they also offer students the ability to transform all the pick up arts knowledge and philosophies into a way of life that students can integrate into their personal lifestyle and goals. During this Mystery Special Training Workshop Bootcamp, I overheard one of the student's remark that Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador's pick up arts knowledge and gaming skillset is not natural but rather unnatural because of the consistent positive opening, attraction, connection, and seduction they all achieve with women. After experiencing this Mystery Special Training Workshop Bootcamp instructors' conference lectures, infield demonstrations, infield guidance, and feedback; Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador are actually supernatural pick up artists. Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador have developed the pick up arts skillset into a super power that can be explained, demonstrated, and learned. Because Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador have such incredibly high standards for the quality of the Bootcamp's material and teaching, I highly recommend that anyone interested in learning the pick up arts skillset must attend a Venusian Arts Workshop Bootcamp. It just doesn't get any better than this.
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"Has Been Something that Changed My Life"

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9.3
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
September 13, 2009
Ive never been that great with girls, and have always wondered if there was something out there that could help me get those really hot girls, well there is, Boot Camp for me was a crash course in how to pull girls, the things you need to say and do, what to wear, how to act, are just to mention a few.

Boot camp has been something that has changed my life, before it i was waiting for something to happen with the girls, now i know exactly what i have to do to make things happen.

"Discovery" who taught us was an amazing guy, everything you want know, he had the answers to, during the day he went through all the theory side of things, and then we all went out and he showed us how it was done, helping us to improve our game with advice that is truly priceless, his knowledge is vast and his experience is great making him an awesome coach.
I havent met mystery or matador myself, but meeting Discovery gave me the feeling some of there great advice was being carried through Discovery's teachings. Being new to the game, the Boot Camp has opened my eyes, and given me a new direction in life.

Boot Camp is highly recommended to anyone wanting to learn about the game or how to improve there own game, boot camp will give you the Results/Girls.
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"The Life I Wanted Has Begun."

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9.2
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2009
You expect a lot from the Mystery bootcamp. I mean, we've read the game, we've read a lot of material, so we genuinely expect to be taken to the next level. Now, I wasn't participating in the in-field exercies of this bootcamp, but Mystery & Discovery certainly delivered.

The main thing about attending the seminar was that you got to see how the guys behaved. This was the big thing for me. I would have really loved to do the infield stuff, and I am going to do so in LA, but just to watch these guys mannerisms, the way the walked and talked in a room was something that I'll think about when talking to a set.

Discovery's a funny guy. Its got something to do with the english accent and the playful swavueness that automatically DHV's him with whatever comes out of his mouth. I'm really dying to try his 'instant kiss close' routine on a girl who looks at me for more than 5 seconds!

At the end of the seminar I think Discovery dispensed some of the most important advice - Make something of your life. You can act like you have higher value - and that does work - but if you HAVE higher value it oozes out of you. Its clear Discovery has succeeded in his life. I'm sure thats part of why he succeeds with women.


Mystery truly knows his craft. Its great when you can hear the advice you've been reading about come straight from the man himself. It gels. You can hear the DHV in his voice when he tells a story. You can be transfixed by the way he holds eye contact with someone. When he tells the story of how him and his buddies drove off some guys after his girlfriend, you're standing there at the car next to him.

One of the best parts of the seminar was when he went outside for a smoke and we all came and just talked shop for a bit. I noticed how he locked himself into set automatically with all of us while we were talking, leaning against a pillar on one leg - he just lives the game.

The only regret I have is that I wasn't able to go for the infield sessions and watch the boys at work. I was actually lucky enough to randomly be in the same club on the sunday night after the seminar had finished. Its really cool to see a lot of people turn and go 'who's that guy?' 'whats his story?' An hb9 that was dying for attention dancing to herself saw mystery and ran over to him. As he was walking through the club, he just held his index finger up as if to say 'I'll talk to you later'.

If anyones considering doing a bootcamp, I can't recommend it enough. You can read about it all you like, but until you meet the masters, you may not experience the VIBE that pickup is all about. Communication is 38% tonality, 55% body language and 7% material, so if your material doesn't work, these guys will show you why.


I just had a day two and then got this gorgeous canadian girls number at a karaoke bar afterwards. I can't believe I used the bugs bunny neg on her. It just came out of my mouth.

The life I wanted has begun.
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"Take The Risk and See Your Life Change For the Better"

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9.2
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2008
Guys. A bit late with my review of the London bootcamp a few weeks back. But all I can say to you guys is that it is SO worth it. People complain about not having the money for a bootcamp and then winge about how they still have no success. fuck it!!

I took a loan out just so I could go to this one!!

And guys - it was worth every penny.

I'm not going to talk about the conference, because there was too much information covered in it to even start with.

But the in-field part....

WOW...

I can honestly say - watching Mystery and Matador open sets, is possibly the greatest thing that will boost your game that exists.

I stuck with Matador for as long as I could, and honestly, he stops you mid-set, makes you correct your posture, lean back and even tells you what you did wrong and what you should do and say next... All of this in front of the set you just opened!!

And guys - the amount of fun you have... unreal

I distinctly remember Mystery physically picking up a girl in the middle of the club, taking a photo with her. and then physically passing her onto the next guy!!!

If that isnt Alpha Male - what is?

And the best part - you dont notice how much you improve, until afterwards.

Its a great opportunity, and Im glad I was part of it


To all you guys who are doubting - take the risk and see your life change for the better.
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"You Will Get Every Cent Worth of Knowledge and Experience"

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9.2
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2008
I would like to take this time to simply review the bootcamp that took place this weekend in NEW YORK CITY!....

First off, Mystery, Matador, and LD were all great guys. They are very grounded individuals for everything they have contributed to pick up but also humanity and the world. Mystery manages to speak to everyone and even when we went out for smokes (maybe a few too many or one not enough haha) he still managed to talk to people walking by and also take pictures. Matador is a cool guy. He doesnt come off as nice as mystery, however he is a cool kat. He is truely concerned about how people feel before, during and after the seminar. LD is great he has great ways of making learning pick up not only easy but very fun. I mean you will seriously laugh your ass off.

You get a chance to hang out with these guys and really just get to know eachother and interact. You meet a ton of people from different walks of life, and there is no better way to share commonalities then attending a seminar/bootcamp. I had the privledge of talking to mystery about magic and he and i shared some good ideas with one another.(especially on setting things on fire from a distance) The knowledge you will obtain from attending these bottcamps are great, but the confidence and the inspiration is ten times better. Yeah the bootcamps are a tad expensive but i can say and tell you from experience that it will be the most well invested event you can ever attend. What helps is that they offer managable payment plans to fit everyone budget. Take advantage of it and ask about them.

The VA company is great. I highly reccomend any service they provide to anyone, beginners, intermediets, or advanced. You will get a first class treatment and experience. Just the fact that they are open enough to answer all and any questions says alot about them. They care about every student and go thru great lenghts to make sure everyone is properly caught up to speed. The dedication to pass this knowledge down is incredible.

They are all great guys, and the people you meet are great. Everyone (both instructors and students) make you feel like your one of the boys. And after day 2 it feels like a "DAY 2". You build comfort and trust with people and you all become buddies.

Sometimes as PUA's we forget that this isnt just about picking up girls its about building a life where we are proud and can appreciate. We take for granted many things...and dont ever stop to notice the little things and its great that once attending a seminar, your cloudy perception of pick up will clear up and everything will fall into place.

Final thoughts: Any bootcamp or seminar you attend you can be sure of one thing...you will walk out saying...it was 100% worth it. whether $400...$800...or the full $3000...you will get every cent worth of knowledge and experience and most important appreciation for things you never imagined.
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"Learned So Much More Advanced Stuff"

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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
October 24, 2008
yeah was an amazing weekend, came down with my good friend caddy. unfortunately i couldn't afford the infields but it was still amazing none the less.

the seminar is well worth the cash, plus you become alumni so can re-attend.

Matador is such an awesome guy, down to earth chilled, had a proper intense conversation with him in the hotel randomly for ages after the second day. Really vibed with him, on a level, spiritual guy and all that.

learnt so much more advanced stuff, as i had a grasp and experience of the basics. however the basics are also there so theres information for everybody.

great weekend.
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