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"Incredibly Useful, But Not Enough to Justify the Price."

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7.0
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10.0
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8.0
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8.0
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5.0
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I'm almost done with the DVDs and I can say they are incredibly useful, although not enough to justify the price.

Having never been to a live seminar, the seminar DVDs are great, and provide some strong visual content to make things sink in although I must agree with the previous posters that the audio content is where the real gold is at. I have been able to tie in more genuinely interesting conversation topics, pickup strategies, and personal development from Lovedrops audio than from any of the DVDs. Lovedrop is possibly the chillest and most sensible guy in the scene, and is not only a font of knowledge, but a real good teacher.

The live footage is real [thing] though, but fortunately thats only 1 of 20 dvds. Though, I am surprised to see the limited production capabilities of from men who have connections anywhere they want. Flash decks, or at least some fucking powerpoint! For 2gs I want a fucking textbook with diagrams and a quick study guides! This is a great course but these guys should take themselves more seriously and realize how important what they're teaching really is.

Recommended for the wealthy or the serious startup.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful

"It is worth it."

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8.4
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The Good
What I highly recommend to everyone with the Mind of Mystery is put the Audio Brain Transplant on your iPod. This action alone was enough to make the Mind of Mystery worth the price. I overlooked the Audio until I was the majority of the way through the video. They didn't add the Audio on as a bonus. The infield footage was a bonus. There is so much information packed into the Audio. It's over 14 HOURS of dense, seriously dense pickup. I walk around listening to it and I can not stress enough how important this element of the TMoM is. My body of knowledge has expanded so greatly and so comprehensively that I do not even recognize what I was working with before. I thought I had game. I - didn't - have - shit.
The Bad
When I popped in the first DVD I was pissed. For some reason in the rush to send out TMoM they packaged the DVDs non-sequentially in terms of which you should watch first. The first DVD I saw was AMOGing. My first impression was seeing top PUAs assert dominance and try to rip each other down. It's not flattering. Theres Matador picking a fight with Mystery to piss him off. Then Mystery is just blowing him off. Basically I didn't get it. I had no idea what was going on. It looked really petty. Until I learned more about AMOGing I didnt realize that they were demonstrating different AMOG styles. Matador was very direct and aggressive, Mystery was demonstrating alpha characteristics by blowing him off and not accepting his frame, and Lovedrop was more playful. At face value it totally blowed. I really wondered why they included it at all until I understood the concept more. Expect a lot of back and forth reviews of TMoM in relation to how much someone has studied the presented material. The in-field footage It's slow. It's almost frustrating at first glance. I expected to just watch the video and see fast paced action and be able to mimic Mystery and be a ridiculous pickup artist on demand. No. Don't expect that. It's more subtle. Listen to all of the Audio first, then the microcalibration, and finally the boot-camp seminar stuff. Once you've looked through all of that then you can check out the in-field footage. What I did was sit there and actually critique the game that is played. I know its Mystery, but critique it carefully. Like he should be doing this now and he'd totally have her but oh no he can't because that was an external interrupt and he has to…blah blah blah you get the point. No pickup is perfect and the available sets were far from perfect. You can tell the sets are really tainted (cameramen are around videotaping), Mystery is under pressure to produce on demand which honestly there is no way to do. He has to stay visible to cameras. He can't go bouncing around the bar and create and attractive aura. Pickup is a lot about your vibe and all those cameras sort of killed it. To be honest I expected more from the in-field footage. If it was done VH1 style with hidden cameras it would have been much better. Video length I was a bit frustrated by the length of video on each DVD. Each DVD has a specific focus, so each DVD is not full movie length which is what I was expecting. I was expecting a full hour and a half on each topic and it's more like 45 minutes. The stuff is dense though. What I would have appreciated is to see more playing with ideas. Like the neg is an area where I could definitely improve. I would have gained from seeing Matador critique the students' delivery in the bootcamp DVDs. Now I doubt they could have received consent to film and release that video, but the DVDs should have had more fluff tacked on to the end to show you both what to and what not to do.
If you have Lovedrop's voice running through your head every free minute for a solid week, Stuff changes. I recognize Everything now. I see things differently. I field tested a handful of fresh openers, I'm taking girls on my arms, I opened a seated 4 set of hot sorority girls that wanted to do their own thing. Then I got there and they wanted to do, what I wanted to do. All of this happened on my first night out implementing TMoM. Until you have everything laid out in front of you, you don't realize how little you know.

I was not in the game before. I thought I had game because I got laid consistently. That's not game, that's playing day-game probability and juggling relationships well. I passed up a HB10+ a couple years ago because for one night I played great game and didn't even realize it. Not even after years of looking back did I pick up on all the nuances. Once they are pointed out its like "How could I have been so blind." It's a night and day difference. All I had to do was f-close this amazingly beautiful and yes brilliant girl, perfect, but I didn't even see it (Still a little bitter for being so stupid). Knowing what you are doing makes all the difference in the world. TMoM is a course in what you should know.

The video is the lecture you would get in a boot camp and more. They go into so much information I'd waste a solid hour paraphrasing the topics covered.

It is worth it. It costs as much as a single course at my school but, in terms of my life, its worth as much as all four years of undergrad.

Equivalent dollars in clothes, incomparable. Equivalent dollars on a car, incomparable. Equivalent dollars on anything, incomparable. I spent almost every dime I had on this course and I'm still happy eating ramen every day knowing I have it. You would never be able to reconstitute all of this information on your own. I am very happy and I can tell already, I'm going to be living like a Rock Star!
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