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It was a good learning experience
that really opened my eyes to what is possible. And it
also opened our eyes to how this impacts OTHER areas of
your life too - it's not about getting laid all the time
(it can be if that's what you want though)...it's got a lot
greater implication for how you approach your life and
challenges.

This is a high pricepoint obviously and the real value will
come from this if you are willing to go outside your
comfort zone a bit (you can only expect so much from
external forces)...and if you are willing to ASK QUESTIONS
when you are confused or stuck.

Even though I came down hard on how the day portion was
run, the trainers were all VERY accessible and
willing to answer ANYTHING and EVERYTHING asked. For me,
that interaction was very valuable...far beyond anything
you can get in a book (especially since the TV show burned
some of the good lines from the book).

You simply can't make this type of progress this quickly
without a BC-type coaching experience.

Also, there was value (as there is at any live event)
in the networking portion. I made some great new friends,
both with the students AND the trainers. A $4k
customer/student is much different than a $20 book buyer,
so you're getting people who aren't just talking about
it...but who are actually doing it and serious about
investing into it. This is something I can see continuing
with - and already have plans to get back in the field with
some of the folks from this weekend. (And I could see
myself working in field with some of the trainers again).

First and for most thank to Matador, Brock, Hawaii and Super Knack( thats right super)

I must say the show is an understatement to the things that these guys can do, especially when you are up close and watching things in demo mode. Matador does make things look so easy in set, but at the same time there is alot of mechanics to what he's doing it really in mayhem when he's in set
For example ( Imagine you are grinding on one girl, then your merging the set and your gaming another girl at that) At one point there was Time when Matador was going straight cave man on this girl that had fake tits, he was so f*cking good that he rubbed his face in her tits. ( and yes he will teach you how to go straight caveman) Overall he had us on the edge of our seat with his lecturing skills. He brought his material alive in the classroom, by making sound do clear.

On to my man Brock, Who I felt his style in very reminiscent of how I think I will be in time. We both dance, which was sick and he has this charasmatic game that I feel is hiding inside of me, He awokened my more playful side of game, telling me to smile more and be more playful. When I implemented this into my game It really worked like a charm. I got to spend alot of time with him in set on demo night. I took some of the routines that he has and I can't wait to use them here in NY.

Hawaii was a good lecturer, he was great for gambits, routines, negs and cocky and funny material. He was very focused on us on friday night which was good. And he literally forced us into sets which killed alot of AA. He demoed on time for us, he really showed us hoe to neg the shit out of a grl that threw alot of shit tests. One thing abut Hawaii is that he really keeps his cool.

To be honest theres gonna be a reason i keep this line short. If u meet him u'll know why I did. KNACK IS THE FUCKIN MAN. ( thank you bro for taking care of me all weekend.)

As for Friday night the club started of slow but as the night went on it started to fill up, My first set Matador coached me, I was using the routines, keeping this girl in awe. Matador literally came next to me and told me to do more kino, ( which is so crucial). Overall My friday was mediocre, Really didnt do to well only opening 5 sets, Brock and matador told me that I needed to KINO more and also locking in. My problem on friday was to get more into A3

Saturday was the complete opposite, Where I opened like 9 sets. Knack was the one who saw all of them. He was really coaching on satrday. But the way i Kinoed and locked in and handled the obstacles and everthing else was told to me was like poetry in motion, at least knack said that. I on the other hand know I could havedoone alot better, although i did number close. Remember Kosmo on the show when he had the two girls on his hands, that was me saturday night. It was really a complete turn around.

The one thing I wish I did have was a little more coaching from matador and brock on saturday, but I guess the thought I was fin, who knows.

The one thig that you should know about the bootcamps, they can turn out where everyone is occupied in set and your wanting a coach to watch you, dont get mad and just stand there. What you should do is just keep on opening sets.There are gonna be students that need more attention so donn't take it personal. I did but Im over it because irealized that I actually was fine.
There will be times when the instructors are occupied, and there's know one to coach you. Just grab your balls and open a set, and don't get mad

That was the one con about the bootcamp( more quality time) I wish there was more time management as well, So I do agree with music man.

But again I learned so much more by taking the boot camp than by reading a book or watching you tube. I cant wait to c u all again thaks fellas for this life changing weekend.

I think there is something in the bootcamp for everyone, regardless of that person's skill. Having some of the best guys in the game teaching you almost one-on-one how to get better was so powerful, it literally changed my life. You can study the material as many times as you like, but without understanding the application you may as well visit a brothel instead of a club. Lovedrop, Moxie, Metro and London Playboy gave me such a fast-tracked education of the Venusian Arts that I have to recommend the bootcamp to everyone. If you can't afford the cost, mortgage your house. It's that good.

Thanx 2 Hawaii, Matador, Brock, and Knack (who is the bomb).

Bottom line, if you have the $$, you have to go and see it for real. The skills and art are something that need to be witnessed. Every instructor has crazy game and they are all mad cool. Matador's game is also all its hyped to be. I had the chance to bounce with him and two gurls on the second night and watch him run solid game. That in itself was worth the price of admission.

thanx: Thanx Hawaii for running the bootcamp, helping me one on one, and 4 being so cool! Thanx Brock and Knack for taking the time to work one on one with me each night and for helping me with my game.

Ultimate benefits: 1) All the instructors were crazy accessable and willing to share knowledge; 2) Meeting a lot of up and coming PUAs who are mad cool.

So, I should mention right off the bat I'm no stranger to this game. I've known about Mystery (and I've been one of his biggest fans) for about 2 years but only started serious sarging about a year ago. I had a lot of sticking points which I just couldn't resolve on my own so I turned to the best.

For the record, this was my first bootcamp with Venusian Arts, but not my first bootcamp (which I will get to later).

I remember sitting in the conference room chatting with the other students just anticipating Mystery's arrival. I was so anxious to meet this man I'd been admiring from a far through books, instructional videos, VH1, etc. And he did "not" disappoint. I think my heart actually skipped a beat when he walked in the room and introduced himself. Just the energy he brings with his presence and the way he talks is hypnotizing (but in a good way). The man is so passionate about this game and his method because he truly believes in it! And for good reason... it works.

Seminar
Mystery covered numerous topics from S & R, to the M3 motto, LMR, body language (with demonstrations), story telling, he even answered questions about people from the game and his TV show (where are they now?). And speaking of questions, Mystery answered every single question I threw at him (and I had a lot) in great depth and detail. I even got to walk downtown with him 1 on 1 and "shoot the shit" during a break.

In Field
Our first night out was slow due to the fact that the clubs were mostly dead. I think in total I got in 7 sets the first night (a good night is 10-12). Granted it didn't stop Mystery from # closing Nikki Benz (the porn star) right in front of me! The guy is so good its not even funny! Regardless, we bounced to a different club(a lot later then we should have) but the venue was so loud(and I can be very loud, I've had vocal training!) that a 2 set right next to me couldn't even hear me at my loudest! Luckily they had a patio that was much quieter so I was able to open another set and got to see Mystery game a very lovely bartender. From there, we left the club, walked back to the hotel and had a debrief.

The second night out was the real highlight of the weekend. We went to this sic club with a roof top patio and we really went to work. Mystery picked up a beautiful hired gun and showed me how to do the same. I had a shooter girl following me around all night (she came to see me after she was out of drinks) but I don't live in Toronto and was busy opening set after set. We really focused on being in state, hitting that preselection switch, merging, isolating (I was able to isolate this beautiful European girl for a half hour) and to really have fun. Because that's what it's all about. Feelings are contagious!!! After we left we took a cab back to the hotel, had our final debrief and said our goodbyes.

When it was all said and done, I felt like I had awoken from some crazy, awesome dream. My soul felt renewed! I remember getting off the plane when I got back to Calgary and trying to comprehend the weekend that had just transpired.

If you're possibly considering a bootcamp but aren't sure about spending the money, I will tell you right now it is worth every penny. Even if you're not as gung ho crazy as myself or some of the other guys in the game, maybe all you want is to find a beautiful girl to settle down with, you owe it to yourself to do so. You'll thank yourself in the long run. And trust me, you have no idea what you are truly capable of until you actually do it. For The Venusian Arts, impossible is nothing.

Overall, my experience was really solid. I would have loved to go in-field w/Mystery and the gang, and I hope I can down the line, but that's just too much money right now for this college student relying on his parents.

I expected Mystery to only be there actually teaching us for 45 minutes or a couple hours at the most, but he taught as much as if not more than anyone else, which was really cool to actually hear it from the legend and tap into his mind a little bit.

I figured Mystery might have somewhat of a big/celeb attitude, and that he'd want his space during breaks. Not so. I made a point of not following him when we all went to lunch the first day, but ended up running into him and the gang around the block, and about 6 of us ate lunch w/him & his group. He really is the guy you've seen on TV and read about, and he seems to genuinely want to help people-I had a couple of helpful one-on-one conversations w/him just out in the hall, and he's patient despite the fact that EVERYONE is pulling him in different directions.

I was also expecting big numbers of attendees but there were only 26 of us, and from what I could gather that was a pretty normal/almost full group. That was really nice, and it made things a lot more personal and conducive to questions and back-and-forth.

I'd read the Mystery Method, and there was a lot of repetition, but the way it was presented still taught me a lot and reinforced things I knew but hadn't really grasped.

The main drawback...was only a partial drawback. (Especially) Mystery tends to go off on tangents and into great, great detail, and sometimes I wished he could've been a little more concise so that we could've gone deeper into practical stuff in our limited time. However, a lot of his tangents had nuggets of wisdom in them, and a big part of the seminar was experiencing how he, Discovery, and others told stories & multiple threaded, gamed us, and interacted with each other while they taught. So that's a tough one, but a little better time management and getting into practicality would be good. Also, seminars starting/restarting late was a little annoying b/c I felt like I was losing valuable learning time, but they might've made up for some of that near the end.

As Mystery was, Discovery, Brandon, Derby, and everyone else was really great and I really felt that they wanted to do whatever they could to help us succeed.

I think it'd be good if they gave/suggested a little more reading out before so that 1) maybe the structure could be moved through slightly more quickly, and on the other hand 2) so that those that haven't read MM know more about the basics b/c I wouldn't have gotten as much out of it w/o the book. Also, more in-class exercises would be good.

I absolutely love that not only do attendees get access to the lounge on here, but in most cases what we paid for the seminar goes towards anything else we want to do down the line, and we can go to other seminars for a year for free.

The day game breakout w/Discovery was solid and I got a lot of good, practical material and advice out of that. Was definitely worth the money.

When I first called Derby I was kind of nervous and anxious, specially because I recently decided to retire from game to become a little more "serious" (not the best choice) and stay with my current girlfriend for a year. This year I learnt a lot, I lost a lot of fear to do many things I wouldn't do before... like stopped smoking, stopped biting my nails, started talking to strangers, started defending my space... started my own business, etc. It was cool, it was nice, but it certainly wasn't enough

I mean before going I had read many books, articles, audio files and many many stuff.. I had bought more that I could read and still have plenty of material to read.

I am going to be very quick at the description of the bootcamp, because you guys should go and see for yourselves: This guys not only believe and practice what they teach, but they are so good at it that they can pull amazing game in field, even though they still have students (and I include myself a little bit on this one) that were not the best for gaming with.

If you are not good, it opens your eyes. If you are good, you definitely can learn a lot. Breakouts were amazing... especially the Zen of Cool. When you go to a bootcamp you will just have so much stuff to incorporate that its impossible to come back and be the same

Take care guys, and seriously, if you want a bootcamp I wouldn't wait, it is very well worth it and the offer they have know is unbelievable (and also a good excuse to Travel yo many places).