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"A Unique Experience."

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8.9
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10.0
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8.0
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9.0
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8.0
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9.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
July 01, 2007
A unique experience to see the stars who started it all! I went to the LA bootcamp somewhere around Sept. of 2007 and found the whole 3 days of my stay, quite insighting! I benefited alot from the lectures and EVEN MORE from the answers they gave me! Hearing from all the instructors you definately get to see each of the masters' own style of pick up, and if anyone can say peacocking, well all 3 instructors make that look like nobody's business! Judging by observing how they talk and teach I could easily tell, Matador was the dominant alpha-male like artist who mixes his rock-star image with a straight dominant attitude, Lovedrop was the playful, friendly, popular, social, and young in heart artist, Mystery well of course from his image is kind of a mix of playful, dominant, and mysterious, nuff said for his part. For all those curious about what a bootcamp is like, let me break it all down for you of what happened day by day...

Day 1: Everyone is introduced to the instructors and each other. The day consists of generally the narrow basics like female psychology, what openers are and an IMPORTANT overview of HOW TO ACTUALLY OPEN (not only is the line taught, the PROPER BODY LANGUAGE is shown, and trust me, it doesn't look hard but delivering the line and body language properly at the same time isn't a cake-walk) along with further A phase stuff. You do go out at Day 1 and get to see the instructors do their thing

Day 2: THe nitty gritty happens here! A fast overview and break down of what happened last night is discussed, I believe micro-calibration thoroughly emphasized (once they explain it, you won't need to memorize the perfect come-back for every shit-test she gives you, AND you'll know how to make your own negs and teases PROPERLY)
A2, A3, and some C phases are thoroughly explained, a bunch of the instructors' personal routines and sound-bites are said throughout the whole discussion. You do go out on Day 2, but this time YOUR APPROACHING

Day 3: Final day, again an overview and break down of all interactions are briefly told, Mystery holds court for a long time in the C2, C3 to S phases, a the S phases. You learn so some important concepts and material that i can't seem to find in the VAH anywhere! Definately a big insight on story-telling and various versions of the stock stories told in their ACTUAL REAL FORM (they're much more richer in quality), and well after last remainding questions are answered, class is dismissed

(side note: yes there are breaks in between and all 3 instructors are more than happy to answer your questions, it seemed that EVERY DAY we probably went 2 hours over the scheduled ending b/c of extended teaching with Q&A, a live practice is done where the instructors will critic your opening body language and delivery, BRING A LAPTOP FOR NOTES!!! Yes they do critic your fashion too so make sure to dress like how you'd dress normally to get an honest review, it's wise to have already read the VAH however that is not required but recommended b/c they go beyond that book, and lastly if you got questions always ask cause they're giving you the top notch answers.
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"My Game is Now on Fire."

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8.9
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10.0
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8.0
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9.0
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8.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
July 01, 2009
I only took the 2 day seminar.
I already had a decent amount of routines and gambits prior to coming to the seminar, but my game was not as refined.

I really liked how mystery broke down the steps from meeting a women, all the way to sex.

my suggestion to people that are condisering the seminar is read "The Game" and "mystery method" and actually go out to the field and practice.

get down the basics first, such as opening, and transitioning to negs etc...

if you dont get down the basics, then it might be a little difficult understanding what the seminar is covering.


so my final thoughts-

understand the basics first, then attend the seminar.

once you've mastered have the basics, mystery and his team will really break down your game into super specific detail.
thank you venusian arts, my game is now on fire.
I feel like a tank when im on the field. nothing could penatrate me.
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"Masters are Made in Training"

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8.8
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10.0
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8.0
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8.0
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9.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
August 24, 2007
where do i start....
the seminar in Miami was just out of this world....and i really mean that...i came to Miami with no expectations of what may happen and wow did it happen....
the bootcamp made all the more sense having read the book and i now know how to implement it better...
MYSYERY,MATADOR nd LOVEDROP....they know their stuff inside out and upside down and backwards and forwards...and not only that they showed in in field....
MYSTERY.......... its your method and you're a genius and i am totally bowled over at how F****** easy you make it....and i now know it is F******* easy...
MATADOR.....you're one hell of a guy....really you impress the F******shit out of me and I'm sure all the other guys....you make it so easy and trust me i know it is easy once you apply the tools and the method....dude don't keep your skills all to yourself....
LOVEDROP ......you teach passionately in the class and in field .....and i now through just of your little tweaks i don't hold the beer go to my chest....
you are a great guy....
BLITZ....i now know the man who i spoke to on the phone and i know you have put a lot into this and it was so fun hanging out with you....

the bootcamp gave me the tools to take with me to Cancun and Playa del Carmen,Mexico.
and one of the openers that i learnt was "how do you all know each other"....
boy , how many sets i opened with Mr G after just asking that q and realized they're F*******friends and so easy to take control of the set.....
just writing about it is getting me all pumped up and want to be in field right now...
the guys from the Miami bootcamp were awesome and we all learnt from them and SCORPIO and MYTH123 you got my number......
watching the guys in field in training on Fri and Sat night was awesome at how barriers broke and how many HBs we spoke to.....

"back to me knucklehead"..a favorite line of Mystery.....

just one of many many lines and openers that i learnt.....
the negs and the push pulls i know how to use them.....

so back to Mexico.....

go laid once and had many kisses.....and bounced many a time and took numbers....

back in london now.......

had one date and the negs and the DHV-ing of myself has prompted women to buy ME drinks.....and my first lay.......in 4 days .....since coming back to London.

i know .......

MASTERS ARE MADE IN TRAINING......and that is what i learnt from all the guys that taught me and all the others...

on that note.....

i would dearly love to say a mega thank you to all who taught me especially the two lovely wingwomen.....
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"I'm Ready to Learn More!"

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8.8
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10.0
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7.0
Innovativeness 
 
9.0
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8.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
November 01, 2008
I was at the Chicago Bootcamp last weekend and it was amazing watching Matador and Mystery work. They kino plowed several women.

On top of that Mystery ran a DHV spike that was amazing. The woman's pupils started to dilate within 30 seconds. Awesome stuff. I'm ready to learn more!
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"The Program is Life Changing"

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8.8
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10.0
Ease of Implementation 
 
7.0
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9.0
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8.0
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10.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
Matador (Stan Tayi)
Date Program Took Place:
March 21, 2008
My experience at the boot camp is life changing. Like many of you out there women have always been a big mystery to me. Growing up I did poorly with girls, the only girlfriends I ever got were luck and that didn't happen very often. Moved to college thinking life would be different, that girls are just willing to jump into bed with any guy. However, as a senior in college, I can testify that it just isn't the case. I read the Game by Style two years ago and it opened my eyes to the possibilities. I tried in vain to do some of the things he did, but seeing as how I had no inner game and that the book was not geared toward teaching I failed miserably time after time. I then googled some of the guru's mentioned in the book. The first was David DeAngelo. I read his ebook and it started to make sense to me about how beta I really was. Then The Pickup Artist came out on VH1 and it really made me feel the lack of outer game I possessed. I saved up some $$ and decided to take a chance on a bootcamp. I knew it had the possibility of changing my life but I was skeptical if I would really learn anything that I hadn't read before. However, I was wrong, I learned far more in three days then I have at any other point in my life.

If you are wondering if you should spend the money to go or if you are wondering if you will learn anything more that's not in the book. I would suggest going. The money is an investment on your future which will pay off big dividends. As far as learning, I learned more than I even imagined I would. They teach you so much about not just picking up women but how to have a better life, be the man you should be, and not to let anything slow you down. I 100% recommend anyone to go and learn from the two coolest guys I've ever met. The program is life changing and I now can't wait to leave the house to put it all to use.
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"My Instructors, Approach Coaches, and Pivots were All Wonderful People"

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8.8
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10.0
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7.0
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9.0
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8.0
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10.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
Matador (Stan Tayi)
Date Program Took Place:
October 26, 2007
Let me wax poetic for just a moment-a vast majority of our opinions come from other people's opinions up to and including the ones we have about ourselves. This is part of the sociological concept of the definition of the situation: What people believe to be real is real in its consequences. For instance, if someone calls you a loser long enough, you will eventually start to display losing qualities through your actions. If the opposite gender snubs you long enough, you may eventually begin to feel as though something is wrong with you in particular and not necessarily just with the way you handle the situations when they arise.

You reach the edge and have to decide-do I leap or do I stare into the darkness for the remainder of my years and wonder what it would have been like if I had just taken that last crucial step? It would be a falsehood to say it was easy, but all things worth doing in this world seldom are. As my instructor Brock put it, If we didn't push you past your limits, it would be called Venusian Arts Vacation and not Venusian Arts Bootcamp.

Think I'll keep all the wild and crazy stories about what happened during my bootcamp experience to myself. Besides, a girl's gotta have some secrets. Let's just say that I would have regretted not taking the time out of my life to make myself into a better person. Not just in my social interactions with the opposite sex, but throughout the broad spectrum of my life. The guys in my class were accepting (and maybe just a little overprotective, lol). My instructors, approach coaches, and pivots were all wonderful people who mastered something I was sadly lacking in-social interaction. I can't thank Matador, Brock, Elansin, Groove, Swift, and Jen enough for what they did for me personally. Stephen, you asked me to get in touch with my inner female, so this ending is for you-You are all my knights in shining armor.

BTW, I'm having a little bit of difficulty locating a certain type of button without a pic or the mfg info located on it (quite possibly underneath of the button along the rim) (hopefully). If I can't find the button, my resources were kind enough to give me some alternate courses of action that I would be happy to pass along at the Superconference.
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"Intense"

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8.8
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10.0
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7.0
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9.0
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8.0
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Date Program Took Place:
August 24, 2007
Watching something that you only hear about if your lucky is defnetly worth learning. Anyone realy serious about this defnetly has to meet theas guys in real life its insane how skillful and easy they make it all look as though its litteraly no big deal and put the whole pickup and girl issue into perspective. Truthfully anyone can learn this and its been two months since i took the bootcamp and since i took its its unreal and almost kind of silly how it always works ive realized that its not the girls that are realy the ones with the choice but actualy guys if you know what your doing if your thinking of taking the bootcamps id seriously recomend it be ready to take notes they cram you with loads of info throughout the weekend. and when you go out in field thats when you get to see all the stuff put to the test and how unrealisticly it works. mornings are for class we started and ended alittle late but they made sure we got everything in being on the master coarce i dident get to see madador lovedrop or mystery sarge but brock and adom were also totaly in there own leage and thay also had a yunger vibe to their game rather than mystery and madador wich i thought was ausome to see as well. At the end we all took pic and said our good byes . leaving with a new found skills to master.
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"An Incredible Experience"

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8.7
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10.0
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7.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
August 24, 2007
This was an incredible experience. The wealth of knowledge was unbelievable. The information with examples really cleared up a lot of questions and put everything together. Just reading the forums, books, and online posts will never get you the lecture detail and in field knowledge that every PUA needs.

There were a few downsides to the whole experience. We had a few underage students in the group which made it difficult to get into the nightclubs. In my opinion, this situation should have already been taken into consideration. Another downside was time management. It appeared that there was little organization when it came to lecture start times, break times, and nightclub time. This was quite frustrating for many students I had talked to.

Watching everyone infield was incredible. All the instructors did exactly what they said they would do. I was thoroughly impressed! Most of our instructors were eager to help and analyze what we were doing right or wrong. Hawaii gave me the most pointers and really improved my sets 100%.

Overall, I had a kick a*s time and can't wait to get my game up to speed and hopefully see these guys in the field!!! Until then I'll be sarging.
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"I Was Blown Away"

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8.7
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Matador (Stan Tayi)
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
August 24, 2007
Having completed the recent Venusian Arts PUA Bootcamp, I just had to post my comments. I WAS BLOWN AWAY!! I am not a gullible person nor an I easily impressed but the Venusian Arts bootcamp was awesome. Not only did they cover ten times the material I expected (from the built-in gene codex that a women can't escape and how to work that to your advantage...to how to carry your drink in a club) All of the different nuances that a woman subconsciously picks up on that translates into your an "Alpha Male."
Yes, this apparently was the last small bootcamp that Mystery will participate in but all of the other Trainer/Coaches (Matador, Love Drop, Hawaii, Brock/"Prophet" and Adam/"Smooth Move" and Dustin are just as capable at transferring their knowledge and experience to others.
The conference/meeting times typically ran over (In fact the last day it ran over by 4 hours). You could tell that they are very passionate about knowledge they are sharing and that it's not about putting in the allocated time just so they could get paid. They actually want everyone to fully grasp the material. They want you to succeed and to be a different person from when you first showed up.
Extra props go to Brock/"Prophet" and Adam/"Smooth Move." They were very inspirational in their own techniques and gambits that they shared during the in-field training. They have such quick wits to come up with "personal" gambits you could use right then, that fit your style and personality, that it made it easy and comfortable to open sets, even though being somewhat apprehensive.
I can't say enough about the Venusian Arts program. Anyone reading this, who is on the fence and contemplating doing the bootcamp and changing you life..... all I can say is... JUST DO IT!!! Hey, it comes with a money back guarantee, so there are no valid excuses.
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"Fun Experience and Definitely Worth It."

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8.7
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9.0
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9.0
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8.0
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7.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
Discovery
Date Program Took Place:
May 25, 2007
Having some field experience already, I was debating wether I should take a boot camp. However, I've always wanted to take a Venusian Arts boot camp. So I went with my intuition and signed up with my wing Firefox for a boot camp in Las Vegas instructed by Hawaii.

Taking this boot camp was one of the best decisions I've ever made. His instruction of the Venusian Arts was on point and gave us the right tools for the field. Also I have to say Hawaii is amazing to watch in field. The first night we met up with Hawaii, we entered the venue and he was already sitting with a cute brunette and laying the mack down. We watched him run some demo sets and it was great to see him take command of them effortlessly. After that, it was our turn to play.

And from then on, he pushed our limits on many challenging sets and pointed out what we needed to correct. He critiqued us on about everything, which was great motivation for us to improve. I definitely learned more than I expected over that weekend.

Also Hawaii is not only a great instructor but a cool guy to hang out with. It was as though he was one of the guys. The boot camp was a fun experience and definitely worth it.
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