"Good to Establish a Foundation on Relationship Management"
December 31, 1899
FULL DETAILED REVIEW
If you have been studying dating advice for a while the knowledge will be less useful to you because you will have seen a lot of it before. Nonetheless, most people will get some 'golden nuggets' to add to their skillset from this product.
Some content is a little too abstract without obvious practical application, but the majority is well defined with, the author Savoy, giving many examples and stories making it easy to clearly understand the concepts. The product would have been improved with more 'practical techniques' to use in different situations.
Good Traditional Relationship Advice, Not So Great on Multiple RelationshipsThe content is strongest where Savoy discusses 'traditional relationships' (i.e. exclusive girlfriends). The advice is good and straightforward on these.
It becomes weaker where he starts to talk about multiple /more complex relationships. Personally, I disagree with some of the limitations Savoy presents on multiple relationship management (based on the experiences of myself and many other top dating masters I know). This product stays pretty general, not getting into specifics on these topics, and sometimes the advice is misleading or actually wrong.
Aggregator of Community WisdomOverall, the information in this product represents an aggregation of the information that has been developed in the 'pick up artist community' over the many years since its beginnings. So if you have participated in the community for a number of years and are reasonably connected you should know most of it already.
Having said that, this product has value. It does a good job of aggregating the good quality community knowledge into one of the first products on the 'relationship management' topic.
Savoy brings some additional innovations in terms of the integration of some love systems concepts (e.g. embedding, emotional progression model) with the material. This is also useful, particularly for students of Love Systems who already use these concepts, as it will make implementation easier.
Unhealthy Overly-Controlling FrameIf you are looking to take your relationship skills to a level where you are building healthy strong relationships with women there are some minor issues with this product. "Other guys shouldn't be talking with your girl unless you are part of that conversation." Savoy (Paraphrased)
This is a quote talking about guys talking to your girl in a club from the DVD.
It is not what I'd call a healthy long term mindset, which will set a good foundation for relationships with women. It will actually do the opposite, setting you into an overly controlling relationship, which will create drama, conflict and eventually the demise of your relationship.
This mindset comes through a little throughout the product - here I've taken the most explicit quote to point it out clearly to you.
This is not a way I would want to live - or recommend you live. There are much better 'relationship healthy' approaches to dealing with other men interested in 'stealing' your girl that are effective.
The Bottom LineA professional good value product for men who have little to no relationships skills and are relatively inexperienced in relationships (or just not very good at it). This is pretty good value for money if you are in this situation.
However, it is expensive if you are already pretty experienced and want to learn about more complex relationship situations (e.g. multiple relationships).
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