Learning Format:
Dating Coaching Bootcamps
- Standard Bootcamp
$1,500.00
- $2,500.00
depending on product features/ proposition purchased.
Release / Launch Date:
January 01, 2003
Available in Following Cities:
Amsterdam (Holland)•Auckland (New Zealand)•Austin (US)•Berlin (Germany)•Boston (US)•Brisbane (Australia)•Buenos Aires (Argentina)•Calgary (Canada)•Chicago (US)•Dallas (US)•Dublin (Ireland)•Edmonton (Canada)•Hong Kong•Houston-TX (US)•Las Vegas (US)•London (UK)•Los Angeles (US)•Melbourne (Australia)•Monterrey (Mexico)•New York (US)•Orlando-FL (US)•Ottawa (Canada)•Philadelphia (US)•Portland (US)•Sacramento (US)•San Francisco (US)•St. Louis (US)•Stockholm (Sweden)•Sydney (Australia)•Tallahassee (US)•Tokyo (Japan)•Toronto (Canada)•Vancouver (Canada)•Washington D.C. (US)•Zurich (Switzerland)
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Summary: Real Social Dynamics bootcamps were one of the earliest to be brought to market when TD (Owen Cook) and Papa (Nick Kho) first toured the U.S. in 2003. Since many instructors have been added are the bootcamps are now available in virtually all major cities across the world.
Table of Contents/ List of Topics Covered:
- Access to Real Social Dynamic's knowledge base of opening lines, humor, conversation topics, and other techniques
- Live demonstration of attractive behaviors
- Breakdown and explanation of the different scenarios that come up when approaching women
- Explanation of what it means to be natural
- Explanation, demonstration and exercises focused on the development of 'inner game'
- Direct feedback identifying what you are doing wrong, what you are doing right, and how to build on your natural personality
What You Get:
3 days of coaching
Average instructors - student ratio: 1-3
Bonus: 2 RSD Mastermind Audio CDs
Guarantee / Terms: Prices differ according to the city in which bootcamp is held.
Full money back guarantee if you aren't full satisfied. Eligibility requirement - You must attend the *entire* program and let your instructor know *before* it
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
RSD bootcamp - A complete ripoff.
Instructor(s) for Coaching:
Tyler/TD (Owen Cook)
Date Program Took Place:
February 03, 2006
The Good
I got a new pair of jeans which cost me $283.
The Bad
-Over the course of three days (21 hours) we spent a mere 6 hours in field.
-Over the course of three days, my instructor demonstrated a total of four sets and refused to do more, despite my numerous requests and pleads.
-Seminar material was unoriginal, and can be found on these forums for free.
-Complete lack of customer service.
-Complete lack of caring about the students success.
-The entire bootcamp experience.
If you are considering taking a RSD bootcamp, I urge you to read this review first.
Last November I signed up for a RSD bootcamp and I took the Feb 3-5 bootcamp in NYC. While I knew that it isn't a magic pill going into it, I was promised by TD personally over the phone that the bootcamp would be tailored to my individual needs, and would shave a minimum of one year off my game. On top of that, they claim these things on their website:
"1- We take you out into malls, cafes, restaurants, and clubs to demonstrate how to meet women right in front of you.
2- We act as your personal wingman and meet women together.
3- We get you doing it step-by-step (what to say, the right body language, how to create sexual tension, everything.
4- We work with you and give you the kind of potent and crucial feedback that you need to get this area mastered until you've got it sorted out.
The program is structured so that even if you've never approached a woman in your entire life, you'll feel totally comfortable and at ease."
Lies. All lies. They fulfill none of these things; it's just marketing hype to lure an unsuspecting individual into giving them his or her money.
Before I took my bootcamp, I sent out multiple emails to my instructor and the coordinators stating what I'd like to do during my bootcamp, and what I'd like to accomplish. Because this was supposed to be a customized bootcamp, I requested the majority of the time to be spent in field, as well as adequate demonstration so I could see what "good" looks like, and have a role model to follow. When I brought these things up to my instructor upon meeting him, after he received my email and promised to fulfill my requests, he told me "We'll see." We'll see? Last I checked, I am the customer, am I not?
I arrived at my bootcamp early in NY to meet my instructor. I was actually thrilled at who my instructor was, as I'd heard he lived for over a year in the Project Hollywood mansion with Mystery and his gang, so his game had to be top notch right? On top of that, it was a 2on1 bootcamp as opposed to a 4on2, meaning more sets, and more attention. Things were looking great. To all those who knew me beforehand, I was very much looking forward to this experience, and went into it with an open mind.
Or so I thought... My instructor was actually nervous and a bit fidgety upon meeting him. Now I can understand nervousness is human, but it struck me as odd as this is supposed to be a guy who's a mPUA, and has conducted hundreds of workshops. I would soon find out that he is indeed a social robot, and lacks the ability to vibe on anything else besides game. There were many times where I, the other student, and my instructor would be walking down the street, in complete silence. I guess the term "Real Social Dynamics" is used very loosely.
The first two days of the bootcamp ran from 7:00pm to 2:00am, and we'd spent from 7-11 in a boring seminar, where my instructor drudged on and on, preaching theory and material that I already knew, and can easily be researched via the asf archives (hence why I requested the majority to be field work, and was promised to me beforehand). We'd spent the other 2 and a half hours in a club, where my instructor pushed me into sets. Here's the thing though.. he refused to demonstrate any sets whatsoever. He flat out said no. In fact, during the course of the three days (21 hours) I witnessed him approach a total of four sets, only one that I could actually hear him in. I was highly upset by this as one of the main reasons I decided to take this bootcamp was to see how the masters do it live and up close. I now have second doubts about my instructors ability to perform, as I feel he was making excuses just so he didn't have to approach.
As far as feedback went, here was the feedback I got after approaching sets at the end of the night. "Good job on approaching man, you did what 99% of asf can't do."
That was it. No constructive feedback at all. In fact I was so upset with the way things were going, and the complete lack of caring by my instructor, that I actually left the program early one of those days, with no desire to continue. It was so bad, I was tempted to not even attend day three at all.
Day 3 was a total joke. It ran from 11pm to 6pm. We spent the first five hours of that in another seminar, going over the exact same material we had gone over the first two days. The second hour we went shopping at various clothes stores so my instructor could show us what's currently in style. That was the magic makeover they promise. You can get this same experience watching the fashion channel. Finally, the last hour we spent in field. That's right, a mere one hour on Sunday was spent doing field work. Highly disappointing.
After this complete waste of money, I emailed TylerDurden the following day, stating my concerns, giving him a chance to somewhat remedy the situation. His replies contained the context of "We have your money now, and there's nothing we're going to do for you." In fact, I didn't even want my money back. I would of liked a second bootcamp where things are done right. I even tried to negotiate for a single phone coaching session, where I could at least learn something. No deal. He even had my instructor call to confront me on why I thought the bootcamp was bad. Very disappointing, considering TD states claims that their customer service has gone up 1000% over the past two years.
So if you like throwing money away, the RSD bootcamp may be for you. Before you consider spending that $1500, I would suggest giving yourself a makeover, donating that money to the homeless, or hell, put it in a brief case, go to the center of your city, open it, and let it blow away in the wind. The money will be better off, trust me.
Hell, if you'd like, I can give you the exact same bootcamp experience for a mere $20.
I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one who had a bad experience with the RSD bootcamps.
I took one a few months ago, and although it wasn't a "total rip off", I do feel that my money would have been better spent elsewhere.
I had the same thing with my instructors, no demonstrations at all, they just pointed out sets for me to open without really teaching anything.
the only results they got were that one of them got a kiss (more like a peck on the lips) from this chubby chick that I wouldn't even approach, not much of a demonstration for someone who's supposed to be a mPUA...
one of my instructors was half asleep most of the time, and the material they handed out was full of typos and spelling mistakes... very unprofessional for people who call themselves "executive coaches"...
they did do a great job with the fashion consult, but I don't think that's worth all the money I spent.
I attended an RSD bootcamp in London last September and it was absolutely shocking. No structure, no demonstrations from the so called experts just a waste of time and much needed money. They tell you to simply approach sets armed with no game plan, no material in the hope that this will "clear your fear". A load of rubbish. I had done a lot of work on my inner game prior to attending and felt pretty good but by 10pm on the first night, after being blown out countless times, I was back to square 1. Thats right, this bootcamp was counter productive to my game. They refused to give me a refund. DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY with these people!
I took my bootcamp with RSD and was surprisingly dissapointed. I've been a fan of RSD for quite a while, and actually preferred them overr TMM.
My instructor was the new guy, Nathan. Basically he wouldn't do any demo sets, I asked him on the first night and he said "I've done enough already". I literally had to BEG him on the second night to do atleast one demo set, and he approached a HB4 or something, who was fat, weird glasses/hair, etc. He gave the most general feedback and wasn't customized to say the least. I told him I wasn't happy with the bootcamp, and he literally walked off and said that he has nothing to say and didn't even give me feedback for the 2nd night. He hardly watched me in any sets, and I was really dissapointed with his attitude. I was getting blown out for like 15 times straight in the first time, and all Nathan did was like, lets jump man, lets jump. It was quite ridiculous.
It seemed that I had paid 2 grand just for the instructors tp push me into sets. I can go on and on with all the stuff that went badly, but I'll just stop. There were 2 other students as well. One was happy because he managed to get one number from a girl and the 3rd guy wasn't satisfied as well. There was also an intern who had absolutely no idea what was going on, and simply hugged me whenever he saw me. I also say Nathan getting AMOGGED which literally killed me.
Obviously, I've gained from the bootcamp by learning about plowing, body language, smiling, etc. However, that wasn't why I took a bootcamp. Luckily, they kept their word to the refund policy and I got my money back.
Hey guys, I just got back from a RSD bootcamp in San Fran. Unlike alot of people's experiences mine was awsome, I learned alot from it. One of the reasons was because my instructor was really into it and knew sooo much. I had Jlaix as my instructor and there was only one other student there so it was very individualized and intense. The first night was really hard and I wound up questioning why I had traveled across the country to be there. We went to a lounge and a club to open up sets with nothing but a couple of openers. I struggled the whole night getting blown out of almost every set I approached. Jlaix really pushed me hard and I was at my limit as far as approaching and also getting blown out. After the clubs we met up and got really good feedback and I started to feel a bit better. The second night was the best, we finally got some material and also a game plan. That night Jlaix spent about 4 hours going over material, game plans, and the most important internal state. That night I opened sets and almost every single set i opened hooked and was into it. I even approached a hb who I would have never approached and got a number close. Jlaix told me I could have easily pulled her if I had used kino at all and that alone drove me to get a pull for the rest of the night. Through out the night I wound up getting another number close while the other student got a make out and a number close. That night I felt great about myself and what I had accomplished. The next day we went out and went over style and day game. I approached a lone wolf at a mall food court and once again could have pulled but I didn't use kino and she left. In the end this was an amazing experience and I would highly reccomend a RSD bootcamp because I learned soo much from it and now feel as if my life will be completely different as a result.
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