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44 of 47 people found the following review helpful

A Solid "Inner Game" Book (With Solid Bonuses)

The Good Good content. Easy to understand. Quite a few new ideas and perspectives, many of them going in the other direction from the usual clichés you hear. Great looking ebook.
The Bad Too light on techniques (but after all it’s a mindset ebook with a focus on Natural Game, so can we blame them?). Last part could have been better organized.
The Bottom Line This book simplifies the game considerably. It teaches you to focus not on techniques or controlling people, but on controlling yourself. You will learn to manage your thoughts and express yourself freely, in order to become a natural.


An excellent read for beginners to intermediates.

How to Think Right

There are many ways to meet women, and very different approaches can actually work. Therefore, it's not so much what you DO that matters, but rather how you THINK. This book is about teaching you how to think right.


The author, Vin DiCarlo, was one of the first to talk about “Natural Game” a few years ago. One of his beliefs is that pick up is easy – just like a “natural” once told him. The less your mind is filled with details and instructions, the more spontaneous and charming you become – this is the basic concept of Natural Game (very different from the structured strategies of Mystery's Revelation or Love Systems' Magic Bullets, for example).

Well Presented and Thought Out

The ebook is well presented, with excellent graphics, classy pictures, etc – very professionally put together. Between every chapter, you get a few pages of “journal” from an imaginary student applying what you have just learned. You hear his thought processes, mistakes, and progress. While this may sound gimmicky, it is actually well written and useful for readers to relate to.

It Should Happen Naturally

The first two chapters explain social and evolutionary psychology theories, and how those relate to Natural Game. From the research, DiCarlo concludes that attraction is a game of displaying cues of dominance. Displaying these cues should not be done through tricks and techniques but through higher level processes. That way you don't have to think how to pass tests that women give you, it just happens naturally thanks to the way you perceive yourself on the inside.


Relying too much on techniques and lines, says DiCarlo, can stop you from internalizing the core attitudes of an attractive man.


The experience of a dominant man is different from the experiences of others, not just externally in terms of projection of confidence, but also internally, as an emotional experience. In fact, it is what happens internally that makes the outward confidence possible. It is hard to fake that dominance or high status if you don’t have your internal emotions in control.


DiCarlo asks you to reflect for a second on the nature of your thoughts. You can’t control what other people think – that’s a losing battle. But you can control how YOU think. You need to THINK like a natural to become a natural.


These 2 chapters are great. You will be familiar with some/ most of the research if you have studied attraction for a while, but it is well summarized here, and most importantly it is put into new perspectives and linked to Natural Game. It certainly makes a very convincing case for “going natural” and working on mindset and thought processes instead of memorizing techniques.


The one (small) bit I had to disagree with was this quote: “For a woman to feel attraction for a particular man, it’s absolutely essential that he have a higher perceived status than she does.” … which is wrong and simplistic in my experience. But that’s just a small gripe.

Female Psychology

The third chapter focuses on female psychology. From the very start DiCarlo says something I’ve thought for years but never saw mentioned before: the idea that women are "more emotional than men" and “make no sense “is rubbish. Women make just as much sense as men do, if you can understand their perspective.


DiCarlo goes on to explain how women think – and it directly relates to the previous chapter. Women care less about what you say than about what you do, and that is rooted in your character, which itself is dependent on how you think. Again, we go back to the idea of getting your thoughts straightened out.


One problem with the standard “techniques” and memorizing openers, DiCarlo says, is that it makes you see women as robots, concepts, or opponents. This is bad because then a genuine connection is difficult. You need to see women, and enjoy them, as individuals. Women are your team mates, in that they want what you want (great fun, a great mate, great sex, etc). Again, excellent advice that goes against a lot of the usual clichés you hear from dating coaches from the “pick up artist community”.


Quote:
“Stop trying to control women. Instead, understand them, pay attention, and control yourself.”


The chapter elaborates on compliance, frames, and the different types of tests women give you. All good stuff.

The Attraction Code

The last chapter details the “attraction code” itself. This is the most abstract and theoretical part of the book, and I was yawning a bit at times.


It’s not that the content is bad, but it is made overcomplicated and goes in to a lot of different directions - without much transition to link everything up. There is a lot of new jargon (State Frictions? Intention-Violation?) and sub-divisions and listing going on. You go from the 4 Elements of Personality (4EP) to the 11 Laws of an Attractive Identity to the 3 State Frictions to the 3 Shaping techniques, with some stuff in between. Although each individual piece is valuable, it feels a bit thrown together in a hurry.


What stood out most in this chapter was the “Quick And Dirty Guide to Manufacturing Confidence” and the “Instruction Manual to Your Mind”. This ties back to the previous chapters – after explaining that WHAT you think is key, he gives you the tools to change HOW you think. Here you learn to be in the moment, improve your focus and keep your thoughts strongly streamlined in a positive, seductive direction.

Bonuses

With the main ebook you also receive 5 bonus books. We have reviewed the most popular of these, DiCarlo Escalation Ladder 2nd Edition and No Flakes! ebook. The others include Secrets of Sexual Tension, Objection Game and Get Your Girl Back (by Jay Cataldo).



The Bottom Line - An Excellent “Inner Game/ Confidence” Book

The advertising says this is not an inner game and confidence product, and I have no idea why, since that’s essentially what it is - it is a “mindset” book. And there is nothing wrong with that, especially since it explains not only inner game and confidence but how to actually get it, and does so in an engaging, simple way.


While the content is great, the obvious limitation is the near total absence of techniques. This is a broad roadmap. A beginner finishing this book will most likely say “oh WOW, I learned A LOT” but his next thought may also be “Hmm ok, so what do I do now?”. This is somewhat compensated by some of the bonus ebooks you receive with your purchase, and hey, you can’t get it all.


For a beginner book that emphasizes techniques more check out the Double your Dating ebook.


The Attraction Code is not for advanced guys, but it will be very beneficial for beginners to intermediates. It simplifies the game of dating considerably, and the content is both of quality and (mostly) easy to understand and accept.


If you don’t want to pretend to be something you are not, this introduction to Natural Game is well worth checking out.

Overall Rating:
 
8.0
Effectiveness:
 
8.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
9.0
Innovativeness:
 
6.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
8.0
Value for Money:
 
9.0
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A Good Starting Point for Beginners

The Good One of the most popular dating products out there. Great advice on women’s psychology and the ideal attitudes for dating success. Clear explanations in simple language, easy to understand and relate to for any guy, no matter how little experience or success you've had with women.
The Bad Not as advanced as many of the newer products out there. Does not teach much about cold approaching women.


Cocky and funny, the technique emphasized for attraction, is good for beginners but becomes a liability if overused for intermediate or advanced level guys.

The Bottom Line This book is excellent as a starting point, a great foundation for beginners.


It is written with the beginner's perspective in mind, so you do not need any previous experience to understand it. It takes you by the hand and leads you through the basics of attraction and women.


If you are unsure about this whole dating advice thing, you will feel comfortable with this. It is down to earth, takes a very 'self development' approach and will definitely open your eyes to many things you did not understand before.

A Classic, Still Relevant

The original Double Your Dating ebook came out in 2001 and was one of the first ebooks to give real, quality dating advice to men.


Since then many more advanced dating products have been released. Compared to what you COULD learn about women and dating, this could be considered basic. Yet, this ebook is still one of the most popular “first reads” for beginners. It is still being described as life-changing by many. It is also the first book that many “advanced”, experienced guys recommend to their friends who are just getting started.


We recommend this ebook for complete beginners.

Simple Language, No Nonsense Approach

The reason for this is its simple language and no nonsense approach. The author, David DeAngelo, explains everything in a way that any guy can relate to. All the points and theories build on each other, and the reader is taken by the hand on a journey of awakening.


Bit by bit, he learns about women’s psychology and why most guys do not understand it. Common mistakes are pointed out. Counter-productive beliefs and attitudes are explained in detail.


Every point makes sense and is easily acceptable and applicable to any guy, no matter how little experience he has with women.


“Acceptable” is an important word here, because many advanced products are a bit too “out there” for beginners (Paul Janka’s Attraction Formula comes to mind). Many people like (or NEED) to get into dating advice gradually, and this is why this book is still popular today.


A great deal of the book is about psychology. From the female perspective: how women work and what women want. From the male perspective: the mindset you need to become successful with women and the behaviors to avoid. This is all well explained and most of the big psychological dynamics are covered.


On the practical side, the book relies mostly on the “Cocky & Funny” approach, which works but is a bit limited. On cold approaching, sustaining great conversations, and dating strategies, better products are out there, although the content presented here is still good.

A Note on Cocky & Funny Techniques

"Cocky & Funny" is David DeAngelo's trademark advice. It is a conversational technique to be used to generate attraction with women. The approach is very well suited for beginners, because it tends to correct exactly the bad approaches to conversation that they have been using with women.


However, at an intermediate or advanced level, when you have improved your other dating skillsets, using Cocky & Funny can actually hurt your success with women.


A particular issue is where men use Cocky & Funny as a crutch, and use it all the time in their conversations with women - this tends to be over the top and actually drive women away. So if you are of intermediate or advanced level, we don't recommend getting this ebook. You have in a sense, already moved beyond its usefulness.


As a beginner, however, the total opposite is true. Using cocky & funny techniques help to compensate for other things you are doing wrong, but are unaware of, and are more subtle and complex. So men who are beginners and apply the technique get very good responses for women, and become a lot more attractive, which is a great start on your path to dating mastery.

Self Development Approach to Dating Advice

If you are unsure about this whole dating advice thing, and it seems weird or even a bit creepy to you, you will feel comfortable with Double Your Dating.


David DeAngelo has become a self development guru over time, and has himself approached dating advice from a very down to earth angel. As a result, this dating advice is very easy to accept and not as extreme as other dating advice. As a result, men tend to find it easy to start from David DeAngelo's products.


The eBook Bonuses - Disappointing

The bonuses contains some very basic advice which is less useful than the main ebook. If you are truly a beginner to all this you will find some practical advice on sex and relationships. However, anyone who is of intermediate level, or has read other books probably won't find much at all.


Also, the "8 Personality Types that Naturally Attract Women" ebook doesn't contain any information that is of practical use. And arguably could even be misleading - skip this bonus book, better to put your time in rereading the main ebook again.

The Bottom Line

Overall, this book is excellent as a starting point, and a great foundation for beginners. It is written with the beginner’s perspective in mind, so you do not need any previous experience or success with women to understand it.


The ebook will definitely open your eyes to many things you did not consider before and will enable you to start changing your behaviors and significantly improve your dating life.

Overall Rating:
 
8.3
Effectiveness:
 
8.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
9.0
Innovativeness:
 
6.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
9.0
Value for Money:
 
10.0
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Basic but Quality Advice On Inner Game and Direct Approach

The Good Simple, no non-sense programme. Good Inner Game section. Explains a lot about society programming, the “excuser” mindset, and how to give yourself permission to be a seducer. Many (often hilarious) examples and stories.
The Bad Short and basic, as the title indicates (but that's not necessarily a bad thing).
The Bottom Line Good for beginners to the Game. Although this audio product is relatively short and therefore limited in scope, the price tag is low so it’s still a nice deal since the content is good and it contains no fluff.
Shark was one of the first “gurus” in the community, and his trademark has always been to talk about “society’s rules” and how you need to free yourself of “social conditioning”. This CD, released a few years ago, talks a lot about this in the first half or so. Although it is not labeled as such, this part is therefore mostly inner game, but with direct implications on your actions and results.


Shark explains you have to give yourself permission to be a seducer, have total acceptance that you want to get laid and will get laid. You need to drop the excuses and not be an “excuser” – as most guys are (Shark loves to use the word “excuser”). You need to stop supplicating to women and become a man who is not shy to tell it like it is, say what he likes and go after what he wants without shame. You also need to work on yourself and not blame girls for your past failures (“It is not a girl’s fault if you have been a supplicator all your life”). This is all explained in great details, with many (often hilarious) examples and anecdotes to drive the points forward. This “mindset” part alone is definitely mindset-changing if you are just starting out in your pick up journey, and although many other gurus now teach the same thing, it is nicely condensed here.


The second part of the CD is more directly practical and mostly about cold approaches in clubs. Sharks gives many tips on how to approach, what to say and what not to say, etc. Again, good tips overall. Shark is all about the direct approach, so the techniques are very simple and straightforward.


This is a basic product from Attract and Date (as the title Basic Playboy indicates) and therefore the length of the audio programme is short, and the content not as detailed as in other products. However, the inner game part is excellent, the overall content is good, and the price tag reasonable. This is a great listen for beginners to the Game.

Overall Rating:
 
7.4
Effectiveness:
 
6.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
8.0
Innovativeness:
 
7.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
8.0
Value for Money:
 
9.0
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Simple But Solid Approach to Seduction (Direct Approach Style)

The Good Simple, basic approach to seduction by one of the first "dating gurus". No jargon, weird acronyms or strange theories here, just no non-sense tips that get you results.
The Bad Could be considered too simple or basic by those who want to reach "pick up mastery".
The Bottom Line This product does not even try to make you a "pick up wizard" or a black belt in the "Venusian Arts", which can be seen as a good or a bad thing, depending on your point of view. This is simply about getting "good enough" to enjoy a fun dating and sex life. Good for beginners and intermediate pick up artists, and all those who don't want to overcomplicate things.
Gunwitch was one of the first “gurus” in the seduction community, and this audio course goes over some of his key principles. Although most of these ideas are now commonplace in all seduction courses, the principles are still solid, and it’s good to hear them from one of the original sources.


This audio course presents a simple, basic approach to seduction. No jargon, strange acronyms or weird theories here. No routines or status games either. Gunwitch is big on keeping it simple and considers most other methods as being overkill .


He describes complex methods (such as Mystery Method) as advanced martial arts, while his own method could be compared to boxing. Why spend years learning advanced Kung Fu, the logic goes, when a few months of boxing is enough to defend yourself in most situations? And why spend years learning complex pick up theories when the “Way of the Gun” can get you laid quickly and easily?


The logic has some merit, as many other methods do tend to make the seduction process too complex.


The focus of Gunwitch is on being aggressive and "just doing it" – Gunwitch’s famous motto is “make the ho say no”. It is not the most subtle approach, but it works, and the aggressiveness is often what most newbies lack most. As such, The Way of Gun is probably most useful for beginners and “shy guys” who are not used to being direct, sexual and persistent.


One of Gunwitch’s key teaching is that arousal is like an anti-logic switch. Getting a girl aroused will supersede any doubts or reservations on her part and get her to go along with you. Therefore you should get in a sexual state and get the girl in a sexual mood. Consistent with his “Keep it simple stupid” principle, Gunwitch advises to go mostly for “lone wolves” ie women who are alone or isolated from their friends at the time of the approach.


Overall, The Way of Gun may not be the best method to “get the hottest girl in the club every time”, but it is very useful to simply get laid, and get laid often. You will learn to stop caring, be persistent, and approach and approach again, going straight into a sexual vibe. If it doesn’t work, approach someone else. It’s a no non-sense approach that works.


The product does not try to make you a "pick up wizard" or a black belt in the “Venusian Arts”, which can be seen as a good or a bad thing, depending on your point of view. As Gunwitch explains, you do not necessarily need to be the best Pick Up Artist in the world to enjoy a great sex life. Sometimes good enough is good enough.

Overall Rating:
 
6.1
Effectiveness:
 
6.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
7.0
Innovativeness:
 
5.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
7.0
Value for Money:
 
6.0
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Good Product on Body Language - Many Valuable Tips

The Good Solid content from David DeAngelo and Mystery; one of the first explanations of the “human mating dance; good overview of body language tricks and fixes.
The Bad Loses steam in the last 30-40%; some guest speakers’ interventions are not as good as they could have been.
The Bottom Line This is a good programme for beginner to intermediate pick up artists. You will come out of it fully conscious of why body language is key, and with tips to improve yours significantly.
A concentrate of body language research

Before watching this again for review, I did NOT remember how good it was, and expected something so-so. I had forgotten how much I learned from this when I first watched it a few years ago.


The first DVD and a half is all David DeAngelo, and it is very solid content – he basically gives you (in about 2 hours or so) a concentrate of research on body language, much of it coming from academic books on evolutionary psychology. The rest of the program is handled by guest speakers, and unfortunately not all them shine (more on this later).

The “human mating dance”

On DVD I, David DeAngelo starts by explaining the concept of the “mating dance”. Animals go through precise movements, without rehearsing them, and females use this to judge their value and decide to mate with them (or not). This is not learned but hardwired from birth.


Well, there are courtship displays that humans go through, just like animals do. This is body language – the “human mating dance”.


Body language is a method of DIRECT communication. It’s the oldest and most universal language. Male or female, we all have this non-verbal, built-in system for communicating. We all read subtle cues in others, all the time, unconsciously.


The problem is, most men are clueless about it. Women are FAR better are sending and receiving these signals.

Using your body as a signaling mechanism

The idea here is therefore to use your body language as a signaling mechanism to women. You can and should use your body language to amplify attraction and communicate high-status. You want to trigger that unconscious attraction response. You do NOT want to leak insecurities or have low-status body language, as this kills attraction.


So, in order to improve, you need to “be conscious of your body language until it becomes unconscious.” In other words, you need to watch yourself and practice good behaviors until you do it naturally.


David DeAngelo then goes in detail about the behaviors you can practice: strong, secure eye-contact; dominant, confident posture and walk; slower than usual movements and gestures; un-self-conscious demeanor; leaning back not forward; slow motions; leading; etc etc. This is all demonstrated on volunteers from the audience.


Quote: “Attention and approval is truly a CURRENCY of communication; learn to spend it and invest it very wisely”.


We then go through a list of the body language issues to avoid (nervousness, darting eyes, fidgeting, tentative gestures, staring at the floor, etc); then we get a list of signs that a woman is attracted to you.

Mystery, and his crazy outfit from outer space

And then, around the middle of DVD II…Mystery shows up as a guest speaker. This is quite entertaining because Mystery was not famous at the time, and you can’t imagine someone more different than David DeAngelo in terms of speaking style, looks or techniques. It’s clear the audience doesn’t know what’s hitting them. They start laughing at his outfit, but within a few minutes of hearing him speak, nobody is laughing anymore.


In a breathtaking hour or so, Mystery basically gives away most of the key principles of the Mystery Method, reviewing Peacocking, Indicators of Interest, Proximity, locking in, negs, Demonstrating Higher Value, the 3 seconds rule, why we have approach anxiety and how to fight it, Kino escalation and how to do it properly, women’s last minute resistance (LMR) and how to overcome it, and more. While this is all developed more thoroughly in other Mystery products (such as The Mystery Method Video Archive or the more recent Venusian Arts’ Revelation ebook), this is a great summary and a good introduction to the man.


At this point, unless you are advanced and knew all this stuff before, you should be panting for breath, because those first few hours pack a lot of good info. Unfortunately, Mystery finishes his bit and we move on to new guest speakers, and it starts to go downhill from here.

The guest speakers don’t shine

First come Steve P. (aka Steve Piccus of White Tiger Tantra’s fame) and Hypnotica. Their speech is mostly NLP, inner game stuff - how it’s important to change your inner beliefs to improve your outer game. All good points, unfortunately much time is lost in exercises that either don’t work or at least do not translate well from video (maybe it worked in the seminar, who knows). More worrying is that Hypnotica‘s body language and voice tone show very visible signs of nervousness, which is quite ironic as he is giving a speech on inner confidence and body language. Hypnotica is a good guy, I guess he probably wasn’t used to speak in front of 150 dudes at the time.


Next guest is a woman called Patty who demonstrates confident body language. Nothing very ground-breaking. The next 2 speakers, Craig and Will H, give short talks on body language that again are not especially memorable.


The last guest speaker is Tyler Durden, who is a bit better (this is a few years back so he had not developed into the better teacher he is today – check out Real Social Dynamics’ Blueprint to see the difference). He talks about displaying value and alpha qualities, taking up space, and using posture to change your internal state.

A solid product on a key skill

Overall, this DVD set is good, mostly based on the first 60-70% or so. It’s a shame that it loses steam in the end, but what comes first more than makes up for it.


David DeAngelo is not overstating the importance of body language; it CAN really destroy your efforts if you don’t have it down, so it IS worth learning this stuff, and there aren’t many products out there about it. This is great for beginner to intermediate guys, who will no doubt pick up a lot of good tips from it.

Overall Rating:
 
7.0
Effectiveness:
 
7.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
8.0
Innovativeness:
 
7.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
7.0
Value for Money:
 
6.0
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Basic and Fluffy but Contains Some Good Ideas

The Good Quite a few good ideas; no jargon or complex theories, very easy to understand; emphasis on taking action and implementing change today, not tomorrow.

The Bad “In your face”, no-BS writing style that will annoy some. Good tips are buried under a lot of fluff and unnecessary filler. A lot of the book is wasted boasting about how great the advice is. Exclusively about being social and meeting more people in general – no precise advice on how to meet women here.
The Bottom Line If you can get over the bombastic writing and the filler, you will get some good ideas from this book. It’s not too expensive and a relatively quick read. This is OK for beginners, intermediate to advanced guys should not bother.
Update September 2011

This ebook has been upgraded to a 2nd edition - see here: The Popular Life 2nd edition.
A confrontational writing style

This book was originally called “Popular Prick” and had a very “in your face” writing style that made some readers uneasy. It has since been renamed “Popular Life”, but the prick-like style is still largely there. This is not necessarily a bad thing, as I found it quite amusing myself, and it may provide a much-needed kick in the pants for newbies.


Another potential issue with this book is the large amount of filler: too much time is wasted boasting about how great the advice is – and it’s not a big book to start with (less than 100 pages).


Still, if you can get past the confrontational style and the fluff, there are good ideas in here.


The book starts by emphasizing taking action; the importance of changing now, not tomorrow; many pages push you to wake up and stop selling yourself short. A good, necessary message that is repeated a bit too much, but the aggressiveness of the tone is particularly effective here.


Quote:


“If you don’t change right now (…) you’ll soon look into the mirror and realize you are old and your dreams have passed you by. Instead of dreaming about your future, you’ll dream of getting back to the youth you're wasting away right now."

Change your personality, start to fit in

The main thesis of the book is that you have to become compatible with society, and not the other way around. Many socially unsuccessful people, the idea goes, think fitting in is “uncool”, and that is one of the root of their problem. You have to drop any rebellious, intellectual attitude and stop thinking about yourself as somehow above others, because that won’t take you very far socially.


After developing for some length on the above, the book then gives tips for Personality Change. You will be familiar with most of them if you have read self-development books before: stop your negative self-talk, be positive about life, etc etc.


Then the author explains the basics of improving your social ability and social life: each new person/group is a new opportunity. You need to contribute (=talk) and not stay quiet, or you will be judged for not saying anything. What you say matters less than actually saying something. This section is probably the best of the book and the tips are very valuable.

Good, simple ideas, and a lot of motivating power

While far from amazing overall, this book does contain good ideas and has a lot of motivating power. Written by someone not connected to the “seduction community”, it is free of jargon and acronyms and easy for anyone to understand, and some of the tips are refreshing compared to what you usually hear.


However, this ebook is also more basic than most community products, and it is purely about being social and meeting people. While this will certainly lead to more options in your dating life, you won’t get any targeted advice on meeting women here.


If you are a beginner to the studying of dating skills, and you have a negative / pessimistic / introverted personality, you could enjoy this and benefit from it. More experienced/advanced guys should not bother.

Overall Rating:
 
5.5
Effectiveness:
 
5.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
8.0
Innovativeness:
 
4.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
6.0
Value for Money:
 
5.0
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Somewhat Misleading Title but Good Advice on Being High Status in Clubs

The Good Quite original content, good explanation of status, group dynamics, and social/business structure in clubs and how to make those work for you.
The Bad The title is a bit misleading, this is mostly about building relationships with club promoters, which is a bit of a narrow focus.
The Bottom Line This is useful information for intermediate to advanced pick up artists who go out a lot in club settings; if you are a beginner to the Game, you should probably start with more basic products first.
The title of this product is quite misleading, as it sounds like this is about running game in clubs. In fact, the content is mostly about the social aspect of clubbing, and then again it’s not really about building social circles in the broad sense of the word either. The product talks almost exclusively about building relationships with club promoters, which in my opinion is quite a narrow focus (although it certainly is effective).


The introduction is a good explanation of how status and group dynamics work in clubs. The author, Brad P., explains why women cockblock guys and each other in clubs, and how you can use social status to your advantage.


Brad P. notes that club settings are where the Game gets the most intense – everyone has his Game face on, guys and girls wear their best clothes, and everyone competes for “coolness points”. Therefore, while cold approaching works, social circle building is actually more effective in clubs.


Brad P. then explains the business structure of clubs, and the “social food chain” of the clubbing environment - this is not often talked about and could be quite an eye-opener for many guys. Brad P. then concludes that you have to focus on meeting club promoters, because while they are low in terms of business/money, they are masters of social networking AND have a lot of social value within their environment (ie their respective clubs).


Brap P. then gives many valuable tips on projecting value, being perceived as cool, and building relationship with promoters in order to organize a high-value peer group to back you up when you go out. The idea here is that running game is much more effective when you are backed by social status; therefore you have to go to clubs with a purpose and a strategy, and try to get a connection with as many top guys as you can.


Some of the advice is a bit over-generalized, as when he says that “all girls in clubs want to go up the social ladder and are competing for status” (many girls actually go to, you know, have fun once in a while) or that “most people who hang out together in clubs do not hang out together in other venues” (many cool people actually do just that). So some of this has to be taken with a grain of salt.


Overall though this will be very useful information for intermediate to advanced pick up artists who go out a lot in club settings; having a clear understanding of the environment you are dealing with and a strategy to follow could make a big difference in your results.


If you are a beginner to the Game, you should probably start with more basic products first, as most of this advice would go over your head or be too hard for you to apply at this point. This product is about adding a new dimension to your game, but you do need some level of game to start with.

Overall Rating:
 
6.3
Effectiveness:
 
7.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
5.0
Innovativeness:
 
7.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
6.0
Value for Money:
 
6.0
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Solid Product, Extreme Technology

The Good Very thorough; very direct, no-bullshit approach that simplifies the game; interesting focus on day game; good take on the alpha male and male-female tension; original ideas and techniques.
The Bad This is not for the easily offended. The “sex-above-all-else” approach is too “out there” and certainly not for everyone. The system also demands a high volume of pick ups on the front end yet little time is spent teaching how to cold approach.
The Bottom Line This is a very solid product, packed with information from start to finish, that literally has something for everyone, regardless of experience level. Paul Janka walks the walk and knows what he is talking about. While the approach described is too extreme, it gets results and can/should be adapted to your own goals. Recommended.
A strong, unapologetic approach

Paul Janka made a big entry into both the seduction community and the mainstream media in 2008. After writing an infamous short guide called “Getting laid in NYC” a couple of years back, a guide which was fast spreading on the internet, he was invited on Dr. Phil and the Tyra Banks’ shows, among others. He made big waves with his completely unapologetic approach to meeting women and “closing the deal”.


Following this mainstream exposure, Janka released this DVD set late 2008 to teach his techniques to the masses.


This is a very interesting program. Janka is not an old member of the “seduction community” – therefore his take on the game is fairly new and many of his ideas are original, which is refreshing when many products are now rehashing old theories.


Janka’s approach is also very straight-forward and simplifies everything – no fancy diagrams here, but a “system” that is basically a variation of the old “it’s a numbers’ game”.

Many concepts

After an analysis of some movie pick-ups, DVD I and II go mostly into “inner game” and mindset. Janka explains that political correctness has bullied men into being emasculated, and they are now afraid to be men. This is countered by his concept of “divine right”; the fact is, men have a responsibility and duty to seek women, there is nothing wrong with it, and women appreciate it.


Janka talks about identity, territory, and mojo. His concept of Assuming Familiarity is something I have used myself to great effect for many years, and this is the first time I see it described so well. Assuming Familiarity is a way of bypassing a lot of the initial awkwardness when meeting women, what he nicely calls “the stranger barrier”.


Pulling the sex forward, another interesting Janka concept, is about injecting sexual overtones from the very beginning. Ambiguity, he explains, is the enemy – the woman you like needs to understand she is pursued.


Janka is a big proponent of Day Game (he also has an audio product on the topic: Day Game). To him, going to clubs is a mistake, and he convincingly explains why:


“ Too many guys fall for the dolled-up girl in the club with high heels, make up, sexy glittery dress, etc; they don’t realize that the same girl was in flip-flops, with a ponytail and a loose sweater, dropping her laundry off at 3 PM.”


Again, I could only nod my head in agreement here, and this is not an opinion you hear often in other products. (There are also few products on Day Game, so this fills an important void.)


Over the hours, Janka then goes over so many concepts that I can only attempt to make a non-exhaustive list: the common mistake of being patronizing and non-sexual, the importance of Roles – which roles to avoid, which roles to take; rooting yourself in your neighborhood, selling through NO, the Roller-Coaster Analogy, setting the bar low, blaming the city, tagging girls for a later date, the Immigration metaphor, the Movie Trailer concept, and much, much more. An awful lot is covered in the first 4 DVDs.


A good point is that in his stories and anecdotes, Janka readily admits his mistakes and doesn’t try to make himself into a Superman. He tells you about his rejection rate and doesn’t pretend to get all the girls, every time, like many gurus unfortunately do for marketing purposes.

Playing The Marketplace

“Phase 3” of the Janka system is called “playing the marketplace”, and as he says himself, it is a bit of an “extreme technology”. That is an understatement. Here we enter advanced/crazy territory.


Janka has a good rationale for why the earlier sex happens, the better, and tens of techniques to make that happen. The last 2 DVDs are basically all about leading the girl to sex as quickly as possible, and Janka has thought about this, and systematized it, A LOT.


Here, the big differences with the usual community teachings become clear. First, while other coaches teach you ways to seduce a girl in order to get to bed with her, Janka teaches you ways to get her to bed within hours (or really, minutes) after meeting her, in a highly choreographed and planned fashion, and the seduction can take place afterwards (or not).


Second, the whole reason to approach a lot of girls in Janka’s system is to have options. It’s not about picking up for the love of pick up, it’s about harvesting numbers for the system. You need a high volume of numbers so you have a “marketplace” to play with.


While all the tips and tricks make sense and are not doubt effective, the high level of systemization will make some uneasy – including myself.

A Clockwork Orange

One of the problem here is that Janka is obsessed with sex, above all else. In his quest to increase conversion rates and get to bed at all costs, he is making it all very mechanical. He outlines a process which is as fool-proof as can be, but that works for him because sex and a wide quantity of girls are his primary objective. If you are after actually enjoying a bit of courtship, enjoying a girls’ company, or generally speaking enjoying the seduction journey in itself and not just the sex, then the point of having such a mechanical process is a bit moot.


Janka himself senses this and says at one point “this is extreme stuff, you might want to tone it down depending on your goals”, and my guess is that most guys will do precisely that. The good news is, it is indeed adaptable and you can pick and choose the techniques you want to use. Consider Janka as an outlier, some crazy pick up guy from outer space –you can use his experience to enhance your life without becoming him.


(Update: a couple of days after reviewing this DVD set, I read Paul Janka’s ebook “The Attraction Formula”, and found that he actually acknowledged the exact problem I outlined above, ie how mechanical his system is and how that could lead guys into trouble - Read my review of “The Attraction Formula” for more details).


Some of the extreme/crazy stuff taught here in the last 2-3 hours include mass texting tens of numbers, tricking out your flat, channeling everything (timing, lighting, furniture, music, conversations) towards getting physical, condom placement, overbooking (stacking 2 to 3 appointments with different girls the same night), and a shameless technique to get her to come straight to your place on the first date.


Some quotes here, to give you an idea of the spirit : “In my apartment, I can close my eyes and go like that, in any direction, I have a condom at arm-length“, and “this is a bit of a bait and switch; well, really, it is totally a bait and switch”.


Crazy stuff, I told you.


This is a really personal section too, with Janka showing you pictures of his apartment, etc.

Weak points

Apart from the overly industrial aspect explained above, there are other weak points to this product.


The most obvious is that while the system relies on a high volume of pick ups in the street (day game), there is little time spent explaining how to do that. While Pulling The Sex Forward, Assuming Familiarity, and many other concepts will be very helpful in the first few minutes of conversation, guys still have to be able to approach and open in the first place. They won’t find how to do that here.


Another problem is Janka’s excessive paranoia on how girls try to disqualify you for the slightest pretexts – a prime reason for him to narrow his system down and take as few risks as possible. The idea is that there are a few things you can do right, and thousands of things you can do wrong, therefore you stick to the system and do the proven steps in order to get it right. There is a certain logic to that, but again, it leads to a very clinical, “rinse and repeat” process. Personally, I like to enjoy my pick ups with a zest of spontaneity. And I think the idea that women try to disqualify you at every corner is a limiting belief – they are not any more or less ruthless than guys are.

Something for everyone

As much as I have explained above, there is much, much more. This product is more than 10 hours of video, and it’s just content, content, content, layered on thick by a Paul Janka who barely catches his breath. There is no fluff here. The production value is good and the price very reasonable for the amount of gold information you get.


This is highly unfiltered, unpolitically correct advice, and some of it could be considered demeaning to women or manipulative or just plain crazy. The approach and mindset are certainly not for everyone but there is a lot to learn in this product, no matter your current level of expertise. Just grab what you can use and discard the rest – and chose wisely.

Overall Rating:
 
8.0
Effectiveness:
 
8.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
6.0
Innovativeness:
 
9.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
10.0
Value for Money:
 
8.0
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Good Overall But Does Not Carry The Same Punch as "Beyond The Digits"

The Good Quality information and tips; most of the key concepts from Janka’s DVD set “Beyond the Digits” are laid out here for a cheaper price.
The Bad The most original and important concepts are better explained in the videos; some of the drive and originality doesn’t transfer as much to the written format; not much on approach anxiety.
The Bottom Line If you can afford it, the DVD set is a better buy, as seeing Janka explaining the techniques in depth with enthusiasm and conviction makes a big difference in understanding and internalizing. This book is most useful as a companion to the DVDs, to get the material in written, organized format.
Same material, a bit less power

This is the book version of Paul Janka’s material, written a couple of months before the recording of the 6 DVD set “Beyond the Digits”. The concept and techniques are basically the same, so you might want to read my review of "Beyond the Digits" , where I elaborate in depth on the content and its pros and cons.


The book is well written (Janka is a Harvard graduate after all); it ties up some loose ends he did not have time to elaborate on in the video program.


There is, among the new information, a nice breakdown on his numbers, approaches, rejections, etc. To his credit, Janka does not pretend to be a Superman and he is candid about his failures. He teaches that rejection is normal and to be expected, no matter your level, and admits he still gets it all the time. You just learn to shrug it off and move on.


Just like in the DVD set, the focus here is exclusively on day & street game, and it feels at the same time advanced (because of how ballsy the whole system is) and basic (because the approach to meeting women couldn’t be simpler).


Unfortunately, there is still no explanation on how to actually cold approach, besides saying “just do it”. You do get a lot of solid, original tips on how to have the right vibe and create sexual tension within the first few minutes.


Some of the concepts are more easy to grasp in written form, but many of the key ideas have been explained more at length, or just plain better, in the DVD set. If you want to understand Assuming Familiarity, Pulling the Sex Forward, etc, the videos will hammer those home much better than the book.

Too industrial?

Presented in the written form without the swagger of a live Janka selling it, the industrial, mechanical aspect of the system that bothered me in the DVDs is also more striking.


Interestingly, Janka himself realizes this, and he has a few pages discussing the deep psychological consequences of “being a player”, including feelings of loneliness and alienation; this is “the burden of the hustle”, when “your reality becomes the consumption of women”. He evens hint at quitting pick up and finding a soul mate.


This is a welcome, sobering chapter and again Janka deserves credit for his openness, although one could wonder why none of this was mentioned in “Beyond The Digits”.


Further, Janka has a blind spot here - the problems described do not come from “being a player” per se, but from the extremeness of Janka’s system itself. Moving on to new conquests almost immediately after getting each new girl, going for quantity over quality, limiting your interactions to a very narrow set of steps, over the long run this stuff is not necessarily psychologically healthy. Janka’s own rigid rules are setting him up for trouble, but he doesn’t seem to realize that – yet.


Still, there is a lot of good stuff in this book, and you can learn from extreme characters without copying their lifestyle 100%. Get the good tips and disregard the crazy stuff.

Invest in the DVDs

If you have to choose, I would strongly recommend buying the excellent DVD set (Paul Janka’s "Beyond the Digits") over the book, because seeing Janka’s presence and conviction on video helps to understand and internalize his points. Many of the key concepts are also better explained in the DVD set – this is especially true for the more advanced, original ideas.


This book is very reasonably priced, and worth buying if you would like structured notes of the material for review, or can’t afford the DVD set.

Overall Rating:
 
7.7
Effectiveness:
 
9.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
5.0
Innovativeness:
 
8.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
8.0
Value for Money:
 
8.0
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More Details on Janka's Street Game Approach

The Good Janka's Day Game techniques are explained more in depth; good examples of his (simple) openers and how to handle different situations.
The Bad Although more focused on the approach, the material is quite similar to the DVD set and ebook; Janka still does not explain how to get over approach anxiety apart from "just doing it"; lots of interesting anecdotes but no demos or full "real time" examples.
The Bottom Line This product explains in details the "front end" part of Janka's system, ie how to get a high volume of phone numbers from street/day game. We would not recommend it as a stand-alone buy, but for the newbies who purchased Janka's DVD set Beyond the Digits or his book The Attraction Formula, this is an OK buy for more details on his approaching methods.
Zooming in on the front end

Paul Janka's other two products to date, the 6 DVD set Beyond the Digits and the Attraction Formula ebook, presented his overall dating “system”, which requires a high volume of approaches and getting a lot of phone numbers upfront, in order to “play the marketplace” later on (see the above 2 reviews for more details on that).


Obviously in order to get those numbers on the “front end”, you need to learn how to approach and carry a conversation with women, while communicating the right mix of safety and intrigue, Janka-style. This product focuses on precisely that, zooming in on the day/street game part of the system and going more in depth about how to approach and handle objections.


Somewhat familiar material

The downside of “zooming in” on a part of the system: you may be familiar with a lot of the material if you have seen Beyond The Digits or The Attraction Formula before, which is sort of required if you want to make sense of the approach used here. The Movie Trailer Concept, Assuming Familiarity, Mojo, etc, are explained again. However, Janka has more time (about 6 hours total) to develop each point and explain more about his practical street techniques.


We are taught to be ready for objections, and Janka list the most common ones and possible replies. As usual with Paul Janka, it's all very simple and straight-forward: try this, if it doesn't work, try it again on someone else. Rinse, repeat, and don't over-analyze it, the volume of approaches will compensate for mistakes and losses.


Janka usually opens with something innocuous then transitions to something more personal and then gets the number within 2 minutes or so (consistent with his Movie Trailer Concept). He uses situational openers (commenting on the environment, ie “Can you help me here, are those tomatoes ripe?”) or direct openers (statement of interest, eg “You are cute, I like your smile”) - no routines or rehearsed scripts here but a spontaneous, free-flowing approach.


Janka explains the most effective time of the day to meet women, how to pace conversations, the difference between silence and perceived silence, how to handle obstacles, and many more techniques for street game.


On the last CD (CD 6), he lists his 4 categories of girl (party girl, bitchy girl, girl next door, fun girl) and how to handle each of them - this part was quite interesting and is exclusive to this audio programme.

A few downsides

One of the downsides of Janka’s method is the “2 minutes and out” approach, ie how he recommends to open and leave within 2 minutes, to create intrigue. This is also recommended in Vin DiCarlo’s The Attraction Code, and one might wonder is there isn’t a “hot guy” bias going on here. In my experience, using this approach if you are very new at this or not gifted in the looks department will lead to a lot of flaky numbers (ie the girls won’t pick up or won’t meet you again). I agree that it can be effective, in time, but I would not suggest newbies to do it.


Another problem: Janka also doesn’t really teach you how to “rap”, how to have an interesting conversation that leaves the girl interested. He has some general tips, but nothing that would really get a shy guy prepared (for this, check out my review of Vin DiCarlo’s Conversation Cure, which does a good job at getting you there).

A narrower focus

Due to its narrower focus and lack of an overall system description, we would not recommend this as a stand-alone product; you would miss critical pieces of the puzzle if you were to watch this by itself. The most inventive parts of Janka’s method, ie his overall mindset, funnel and end-game techniques, are not described here.


This is an OK buy for newbies/intermediates who purchased Janka's DVD set “Beyond the Digits” or his book The Attraction Formula, if they are interested in the details of his approaching method. To avoid disappointments, note that this is the same material, expanded; it is not brand new stuff separate from the DVD/book.


Unless they are big fans of Janka (and many are), advanced guys probably should not bother, as most of the techniques are already outlined (more briefly) in Beyond The Digits / The Attraction Formula, and they should be able to understand and build on them already, from experience.

Overall Rating:
 
6.3
Effectiveness:
 
7.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
5.0
Innovativeness:
 
6.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
8.0
Value for Money:
 
6.0
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Too basic overall, and sometimes wrong

The Good The videos on "conversational ninjitsu" and teasing are OK, they are well explained and many lines are good, funny and inventive. Some interviews of colorful characters not fitting the "seduction guru" mold.
The Bad Much of the content is either very basic, fluff, or downright wrong advice.
The Bottom Line This programme is very basic and would only benefit the extremely shy and socially awkward guy. Unfortunately the good parts are mixed with vague, wrong or ridiculous advice, and the total newbies wouldn't be able to tell which one is which. This is also seriously overpriced compared to other products out there with much better content. Not recommended.
Got game?

The man behind this programme, Thundercat aka Joseph Matthews, doesn’t have the best reputation in the seduction community, where many have accused him of having no game.


Although familiar with his name, I had never seen any of his products, so I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.


The videos turn out to be Matthews’ voice over powerpoint slides – a bit of a bait and switch here when you are promised “videos” on the website.


The first two clips explain what Matthews calls “The Addiction Method »: this is about creating a character that is fun and outgoing, getting people addicted to that character, and “wearing a social mask” to be more confident. This is quite dated advice right there – most dating advice has evolved towards getting people to improve their life for real.


Matthew talks about the feeling of self-importance and imposition, both good points but lost in a lot of fluff. Not much to save in video 1 & 2, and the temptation to fast-forward is growing strong.

Weird Story-telling

The third video is about storytelling, and Matthew lists 18 “master plots”, or stories paradigms, if you will. You have to think of a life experience that would fit into one of those. Not a bad exercise, maybe, but a bit arbitrary.


One of the problem here is that many of Matthews’ own examples are lame. Stories of his car breaking down, a terrible smell in his home, people farting, music being too loud in his ears; it’s a lot of negative and plain weird stuff that you can’t really see amusing anyone, much less attracting girls.


One example goes like: “I was super drunk, could barely keep my eyes open. So I Iiterally stumbled into my room, in the dark, and collapsed on my bed. And I hadn’t cleaned the sheets in weeks, so it smelled terrible, but I was so tired, I couldn’t move, so I just had to lay there and fall asleep with that terrible smell in my nose.”


This might get you a laugh, but it won’t evoke the most attractive imagery in your target’s mind. Is this the best example to show newbies? I doubt it.

Butterflying your way to high social value?

The third video is about “being the life of the party”, and after an OK bit on ownership and reputation, we go right into “the butterfly effect”.


It goes like this: you introduce yourself briefly to each group in the club - every single one of them, one by one. You “pop in and pop out, in 30 seconds or less”, just saying “hi, how you doin’?”; then you go right to the next group, until you have done them all.


THEN, you go back for 2-5 mins to EACH and EVERY group AGAIN and “ask them how they are doing and if they need anything, maybe another drink”.


This, Matthews explains, “is to increase your value and show everyone in the room that you are not a weird guy”.


Unfortunately, this is downright wrong. Moving on from group to group at such speed and in a systematic manner is going to make you the weird guy, guaranteed. You might be able to impress a party of 12 year old girls with this trick, but in any grown up venue, no. Just no.


Things pick up ever-so-slightly on the remaining videos. “Conversational Ninjistu” has some good tips on starting and sustaining conversation (I liked the idea of “so” as a gear shifter between topics). “How to be funny” explains how to develop some quick wit and a personal sense of humor. And “How to tease a girl” actually had a lot of nice, inventive lines.

Too basic, and sometimes wrong

Alas, while the last videos are alright, it’s still very basic and doesn’t make up for what came before. There is nothing wrong in covering conversation 101, but teaching only the basics is a bit of a let down. And there is enough bad advice mixed with the good here to get any beginner confused and frustrated.


I am sure Matthews is not a bad dude, but he is out of his depth in this field. There are way more experienced seduction coaches out there. For that price and in the area of personality and conversation skills, you will be much better off getting David DeAngelo’s Cocky Comedy & Other Conversation Skills or Vin DiCarlo’s Conversation Cure, both better structured products with more valuable content and tons of examples.

Overall Rating:
 
2.6
Effectiveness:
 
2.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
5.0
Innovativeness:
 
1.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
4.0
Value for Money:
 
2.0
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Good Information, Poor Structure

The Good Focus on being "natural", without awkward or complicated techniques to remember. Simplifies the game considerably and makes it fun. Good explanation on "state pumping" ("the Wooo!"). Good vibe and mindset from the speaker.
The Bad Only a few concepts are taught on each DVD, and many of them are old ideas with different names. The course's structure is loose to non-existent.
The Bottom Line This course could have been much better with a proper structure. Curiously, many of the new techniques/ideas are mentioned as throw-aways, while the old material is dwelled on. A good watch for the beginner/intermediate guys who need to soak in a “natural” mindset, but anyone who has extensive experience will find little new ground covered here.
Game-changing?

This product was released in 2008, with a lot of hype about its game-changing potential. It is all about teaching you how to become a “natural”, ie a guy who can approach anywhere, anytime, someone who attracts women naturally, just by being himself.


The Method is broken down in 3 parts:


The Flawless Mindset


The Flawless Method


The Flawless Ecosystem


The programme therefore starts by covering “The Flawless Mindset”, which is based on equal value: the girl you approach does not have a higher value than you do. You don’t have to demonstrate higher value, because your perception of yourself is on an equal level, if not higher.


Therefore as you approach, you are not concerned with rejection, quite the opposite in fact: you are thinking “this girl is lucky, she is gonna go for a ride” – and YOU are the ride. And by the same token, you do not perceive her friends as obstacles, but as cheerleaders to your success.


Another concept I particularly liked was that pick up is not about girls at all. It’s a celebration of YOU. YOU are the only constant in every one of your pick up, therefore the only thing that matter is your progress and enjoyment.

A feeling of déjà vu

This is all great mindset stuff, and most experienced guys have reached those same conclusions. It is nicely explained here. There is one problem though: many of those concepts were all covered in depth in other products from the same company, namely, in Tyler Durden’s The Blueprint or Real Social Dynamics’ Transformations (where the same guy, Timothy Marc, had a 2 hours speech).


“As far as you are concerned, you are the coolest motherfucker on the planet”? – seen in the Blueprint


“Entering the Woo”? – seen in the Blueprint, and in every Real Social Dynamics product since forever (it is, in fact, the old NLP/community technique of “state pumping”).


“Assumption of Glory”? – Blueprint.


“Giving yourself permission to be the cool guy?” - Blueprint.


“Everything must come from your own self amusement” - Blueprint.


“Sense of entitlement”? – Blueprint.


“Do not give a fuck what anyone thinks of you”? – Blueprint.


You get the idea. Different names occasionally, but same concepts.


So the bad thing is, a lot of this is not ground-breaking, especially if you have seen The Blueprint before. The good thing is, this program is a lot shorter than The Blueprint and in many ways it is more practical. Tim discusses heavy mindset stuff relatively briefly, and only to go straight into how to apply each principle in action.


You could say that if the Blueprint was the mindset-tweaking product, this could be the Action Manual for it.

The action manual for Blueprint-style pick up

In fact, on DVD 3 and 4, the practical side picks up even more. The idea of ‘feeling dangerous from the word ‘HEY’ “ and having strong masculine intent was good, and reminded me of Paul Janka’s teachings.


The idea of using rejections to build a “Fury” that propels you into further adventures was excellent as well. Tim talks about having the attitude that nothing can stop you, an attitude of “I’m prepared to go in when others are not”. The “Russian mafia girl” was a cool illustration.


Another nice concept was to put the girl into a "you and me" bubble instead of a "you vs me" dynamic. You don't trick her to come home with you, she is happy to come along – this is a much better frame to be in, indeed.


Tim also covers the concepts of Chode Hope, the Pinpall, Internal Cheerleaders, and many more - some of them new stuff, but many are just old material with a new spin.


DVD 3 and 4 are by far the most enjoyable, but again the structure is lacking. Most of the "in field" videos, unfortunately, are also disappointing - very brief and you don't get to see or learn much. The “Flawless Ecosystem”, supposedly a third of the Method, is talked around the very end, and not developed at all besides saying “meet lots of people and you will have lots of girls”.

Bad structure, good information

All in all, this product is hard to rate. It is not bad but could have been much better with a proper structure. The DVDs were moving too slowly for me and all the renaming of old concepts was annoying.


Upon reviewing my notes later though, I realized how much good information was hidden in this. I would still not recommend it to advanced guys – not that you wouldn’t enjoy watching it, but there isn’t enough new stuff to justify the price if you are at that level.


For beginners to intermediates though, this is a chance to see a quality “natural” mindset in full glory, and to put the Blueprint principles in action. Just make sure to take a lot of notes for later review - this is mostly a collection of stories and ideas, thrown at you one after another, and you will have to reach your own conclusions.

Overall Rating:
 
6.4
Effectiveness:
 
7.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
8.0
Innovativeness:
 
5.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
9.0
Value for Money:
 
4.0
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Good Product on Conversation Skills

The Good Covers a lot of useful tips on starting and holding conversations; useful explanations on emotionally charged language and state transfer. Very hands-on and practical.
The Bad It is not exhaustive on the topic of conversations – the idea was probably to stick to the basics and cover those well. Some time wasted watching guys do long exercises. High price tag.
The Bottom Line This is a good product, and there aren't many out there focused exclusively on this topic. We would have liked to see a bit more information and less exercises, but overall this will certainly help beginners and intermediate guys to have better conversations, if they can afford the high price tag.
This product focuses exclusively on conversations and ways to improve them.


Vin DiCarlo’s teaching style is to help you acquire skills through drills, ie through practice and exercises that gradually increase in difficulty. For this you need the right environment, and DiCarlo believes it shouldn’t be done in the field but in a safe, controlled and sympathetic atmosphere.


In this product you can see how that works. It is shot in a mid-size seminar room, with a few different coaches and guest teachers. Three male students and three female "volunteers" are involved. For each technique taught, the guys go through a series of exercise and practice with the girls, with help and input from the coaches.

Format: annoying but also beneficial

While I’m sure it is effective for actual “live” students, at first I thought this format would be very annoying to watch on video, and indeed it is, at times. One big downside: they can only teach a new tip or technique every 10 or 20 minutes, because the exercises take a while and each guy has to go through them. Often it feels like you are wasting your time watching the three of them fail and stumble through words.


Some of the exercises also feel pointless - girls make up a lie, guys need to find out the lie by asking questions, and this goes on for 30 mins on DVD 2…


BUT having said that… I eventually found it beneficial to see the mistakes made, and the coaches use each mistake to point out ways to apply the techniques better. It’s like a complete Q&A and troubleshooting after each technique. So what you may lose in scope and speed, you gain in thorough understanding and clarity. The three guys also have different ages, personality and sticking points, so the listener can identify and relate to at least some of them and see how they make progress.

Good Story-Telling techniques

The storytelling techniques and exercises were particularly good on DVD 3 & 4. Stories are important as a tool for state transfer and to create an emotional connection with your audience. The products shines here: the story-telling techniques are both helpful and easy to remember and implement.


The guys are taught to calibrate, charge the story emotionally, avoid trailing off, structure and pace the story, the role of the punchline, etc etc. They also practice balancing emotional projection/elicitation with the proper amount of sexual tension. Here you can really see how a little bit of training makes a world of difference, as the guys’ stories take shape and get much better in minutes. Injecting emotions instead of facts just works, and the drills make that very clear, as well as show you how easy it is to implement.

Creating sexual ambiguity and tension

The guys then practice using ambiguous/sensual words to create a subconscious sexual vibe and further amp the tension. This is not talking about sex, but talking about normal things in a sexual way, and it is a quite humorous and interesting session:


Guys get a list of sexual-sounding words (deep, wet, pounding, thick, creamy, etc) that they use to "juice" up their stories and give them sexual overtones. This is an excellent technique to create sexual ambiguity under the radar, and while I have done this on occasions naturally, I had never thought of doing this on purpose for an extended period of time.


DVD 5 discusses role playing, or how to make a woman enter an imaginary scenario and take her on a fun adventure. This makes you stand out from the usual banter. It helps you escalate physically much faster too, as you get into instant roles of boyfriend/girlfriend, doctor/nurse, etc.


You also learn how to bluff your way through a cold reading, and use that as a tool to connect (which is not really my cup of tea, but it’s the first time I saw it explained in a not-too-creepy way here, I almost feel like trying it).


More useful tricks are taught here, including “shaping” and “flipping the script”, which were also described briefly in DiCarlo's ebook The Attraction Code .


On DVD 6 & 7, guest speaker IN10SE does a bit of NLP 101 and explains value elicitation. He teaches how to go beyond the superficial level to create deeper connections faster. This wasn't bad but honestly I was expecting more from 2 hours of IN10SE than the basic stuff he gives away here.


Finally, on DVD 8 we get some "fight simulations" games – which I though was a big waste of time, and more than a bit creepy. The coach (Jeff Foxx) is basically teaching you to lie your ass off or fake being angry in order to "win" arguments. Not the most healthy mindset there. In my experience, once you get good and if you want multiple women in your life, just learn how to manage multiple open relationships and save yourself the drama.


There was a useful hidden lesson on this DVD, though: how much more naturally prepared the girls are, as you see them basically toy around with the guys even though the guys are being coached how to "win" (none of them is winning anything, they get destroyed every single time).

A very hands-on approach

Overall, the last few DVDs are not as good as the first ones, and we would have liked a faster pace and more techniques included. Still,this was a good watch and it is a great product for newbies and intermediates.


It is a very hands-on programme – not a lot of theory, just simple techniques that work, explained at length. You can see them immediately applied which helps a great deal internalizing them. In some ways this could be more useful than getting a super-exhaustive product listing 1476 techniques that you just get overwhelmed with.


One problem is the price tag: at 497 bucks, this isn't cheap compared to other products, and it's certainly not the best value for money. Then again you are maybe paying a premium for one of the few video products out there focusing on this skillset.

Overall Rating:
 
6.8
Effectiveness:
 
8.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
9.0
Innovativeness:
 
6.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
8.0
Value for Money:
 
3.0
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A Very Enjoyable Read - Makes Meeting Women Easy and Fun

The Good Enjoyable read. Great vibe and mindset from the author, who as a former comedian has a truly unique “nice guy”, “fun gentleman” approach to pick up. Great tips on fun conversations, frames and vibing.
The Bad Not as detailed or exhaustive as some other books.
The Bottom Line This is a great read for beginners and intermediate guys. Not the most exhaustive book out there, but with the mindset and vibe presented here, you will know you do not necessarily need to slip into a fake, larger-than-life persona to get results.
A gentlemanly approach

The author of this book, Wayne “Juggler” Elise, was one of the first to teach a “gentlemanly” pick up approach, back in the days where virtually all seduction advice was about alpha male projection, negs and other tricks.


By gentlemanly approach, I do not mean the lame, common way of the “nice guy”; Juggler simply recommends a warm, genuine, friendly vibe as the first step. “The greatest Pick Up Artist is the one who enjoys himself the most”, he says, and much of his teaching are designed to get you there.


This fits with his personality – a former comedian, Juggler is not a muscle-bound alpha male, but an ordinary guy with extraordinary results. The book itself is written in a very entertaining way, and you get a glimpse into his style just by reading it. The book is just full of personality, which is a nice change from many dry, purely technical pick up manuals.


One downside is that he does not really teach you how to be funny. There are many example of hilarious conversations and funny one-liners, but no tips on how to become witty enough to come up with your own.

Injecting fun

Juggler does suggests you take improvisation classes, and much of his style is based on that – fun, improvised lines that seems to come straight out of a stand-up comedy show. He is one of the best I’ve seen at injecting surprise and randomness into conversations. “Give up the need to be exact or correct in exchange for being bold”, he says, and later: “You don’t have to make any sense. You just have to strike the right chords.”


As far as banter goes, many tips are given here: use open-handed questions, hold a vacuum to force an answer, reward her when she earns it. Juggler also writes many examples of “bad” interactions, detailing the mistakes made and how to troubleshoot them.


His approach is mostly indirect – take in the situation and use a fun situational opener. Although there is a section on club game, Juggler is famous for his day game practice, and his non-threatening, just-having-fun vibe is especially well-suited for it.

Sexual intentions

As gentleman as he is, Juggler is no shy guy either – he is still a Pick Up Artist, eager to get results fast. He advocates making your sexual intentions clear right from the first interaction. Women find safe guys boring, he says – they appreciate a unapologetic guy who is not ashamed of what he wants.


When making a sexually charged comment, it is important to not go too far, and not try to overcome her objections. Instead, Juggler argues, agree with them: “One of the worst mistakes a guy can make is to destroy obstacles a woman bring up. These are her safety valves that enable her to flirt. Instead he should support them and use them to crank up the tension”. I thought this concept of “safety valves” was interesting and have not seen it mentioned anywhere else.

Recommended for its vibe and mindset

Overall, this book is a great read and I recommend it to newbies and intermediate guys. It may not be the most cutting edge or exhaustive book out there, but it contains a lot of excellent tips, and the mindset and vibe is a useful reminder: you do not necessarily need to slip into a fake, larger-than-life persona to get results.
Overall Rating:
 
7.0
Effectiveness:
 
7.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
8.0
Innovativeness:
 
5.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
7.0
Value for Money:
 
8.0
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Too rudimentary overall

The Good Good direct mindset, good general tips.
The Bad Right advice on what to do but not enough on how to actually do it. Unperfect English from the main speaker.
The Bottom Line Badboy is a knowledgeable coach and the content is good, although for beginners ONLY. However, the product is too basic – ideas, explanations and missions are not explained at length; at this price, there are better products out there for beginners.
Covering the basics

This 3 CD set is the “basic” product offering from Badboy Lifestyle, intended to teach the ABC of dating and seduction to beginners.


It is very clear from the start that this will be for newbies only, as the first half of CD1 is all about basic mindset and concepts:


-Girls don’t like nice guys


-Girls like sex as much as guys do


-Girls are not above men


-Girls are emotional, men are logical


-Etc, etc


This part feels like a quick review of the “common knowledge” concepts in dating advice today. This could be useful, but unfortunately Badboy is far from exhaustive and he leaves a lot of important ideas uncovered (see for example David DeAngelo’s Double Your Dating ebook for a much more thoroughly expanded view of the basic psychological principles and mindset tips).

”Society Programming”

Another pet peeve of Badboy is “society brainwashing” and how “they” try to keep you controlled and frustrated through advertising, making you believe you need cars, luxury watches, etc, in order to get women.


While he does have a point, he takes it too far by saying things like “this is the brainwashing they must do to avoid economic collapse”, “this is how they keep you frustrated on purpose”, and other statements along the same line.


Of course, the rise of modern advertising happened at the same time as the widespread sexual liberation movement – in the last 30-40 years. While you see 100 times more naked women in ads than your grandfather did, you also have 100 times more opportunities to get laid in today’s society. We are now living in a hook up culture, the likes of which the world has never seen before. If “they” wanted to keep people frustrated, they would be doing a pretty poor job. So let’s take this stuff with a big grain of salt…

Not enough practical tips

Another section of CD1 explain the ideal traits of the desirable man: the importance of looking stylish, having a sense of humor, being unpredictable, etc etc. Unfortunately, you are just advised to get stylish and humorous – good luck getting there, because this product will not tell you how.


The end of CD1 and most of CD2 explain rapport and attraction. Attraction, Badboy points out, is a fleeting feeling, and must therefore be mixed with rapport to create a lasting connection. All the tips on creating rapport and attraction are good but (again) not developed nearly enough.


He suggests talking about emotions not facts, for example, but does not really explain or demonstrate how. He advises to connect through stories but has no tips on how to structure a story, how to use punchlines or hooks, how to create a fun vibe or demonstrate value.


In other words, he consistently tells you the right thing to do, but rarely explains how to actually do it. This is a surprising mistake for someone who has been teaching live bootcamps for as long as Badboy.

A whole CD of missions

CD 3 is all about missions, gradually introduced by level of difficulty. Some guys may feel like they need those, but in my opinion this CD was not really necessary, or should have just been an extra bonus. Do you really need to be told to take it gradually, and do simple conversations first, then harder next week, then harder still next month? Why not, but be aware that this is pretty much all the last CD has to offer.

Too rudimentary overall

Overall this product is too rudimentary – not enough is explained, and the few concepts covered are not developed sufficiently.


We understand that each company must explain seduction 101 to its new students, and they are bound to go over the most common concepts.


However, if you stick to the basics, at least cover them thoroughly, because that’s exactly what total beginners need to “get it”. You can’t tell a newbie “use stories to connect” and expect him to know how to do that.


I have no doubt Badboy is excellent with women – I can feel that. But as a teacher, unfortunately he did not succeed at structuring a great product here.


We would not recommend this audio set, even for those who are new to this. As a beginner you will get more depth in Vin DiCarlo’s The Attraction Code or the Double Your Dating ebook, or (if a more complex, indirect style doesn’t scare you) in Venusian Arts’ “Revelation”.

Overall Rating:
 
3.8
Effectiveness:
 
4.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
6.0
Innovativeness:
 
2.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
4.0
Value for Money:
 
3.0
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Awesome bonus for a great book

The Good Excellent, clear and exhaustive advice on touching, building physical tension and sexually escalating with women.
The Bad One piece of wrong advice about asking questions - that you better ignore.
The Bottom Line Excellent book that would almost be worth 37 bucks by itself. And this is a free bonus, so it's a no-brainer.
A very meaty bonus

The Escalation Ladder is a bonus ebook you receive when purchasing Vin DiCarlo's main ebook - The Attraction Code . It is an ideal companion to the main book because it gives you very practical, physical steps to take when talking to women (something the main book lacks, since it’s mostly about mindset).


At 26 pages and with GREAT content, this is a very meaty and valuable bonus that is close to being a product by itself.

From covert to overt

DiCarlo start by classifying different moves into different classes – from covert to overt, from accidental to obvious. Using those, you get her used to your touch, little by little, step by step – ranging from light touch on her lower back to brushing her hair. This happens over a longer period of time – a couple of hours.


DiCarlo notes that most men will touch a woman’s face too early – women are surprisingly protective of their face area (including neck and hair).


We then move on to the Escalation Ramp, which is leading up to kissing…and more. This happens much faster… and this is the time NOT to fuck up, or all your previous efforts might be ruined.


I liked that DiCarlo really breaks it down, and makes important distinctions that are well-known to advanced guys yet no often talked about – such as skin touching, focusing on the areas she likes most, etc. Using push-pull and a “2 steps forward one step back” approach, you build your way up while avoiding boring her (by moving too slow) or startling her (by moving too fast).

It “just happens”

There is a technique in there that I’ve never seen before (and for me that is pretty rare) – lifting the girl shirt, and yours, and hugging her so that your stomachs are in contact. DiCarlo points out that the only time this usually happens is during sex, and therefore this sends shivers down her spine. I can see the logic in that, but I can also see it being weird/uncomfortable (although he does say this should only be used in isolation). I will have to field test this. Anyway, points for originality here.


Another excellent point is that kissing/touching the breasts is NOT a necessary step. You can skip it if it makes the girl uncomfortable, and it won’t stop anything happening.


DiCarlo explains that using body parts such as your thighs, forearms etc to stimulate her body creates less resistance, because it “seems” accidental, like it “just happens”, and therefore doesn’t ring any alarm bells. Of course this doesn’t make sense on a logical level, but nobody is thinking logically when aroused.


The last few pages go into even more detailed sexual tricks that I will not cover here, both to avoid giving everything away and because it gets pretty graphic. But there are more fresh, quality ideas there.

One small gripe

One point I totally disagree with: he suggest to actually ask “Do you want me inside you?” or “Do you want me to get a condom?” before you actually cross the ultimate line.


That is terrible advice. I’m not sure why DiCarlo doesn’t realize it, since the whole book is about escalating incidentally and not being obvious about it. Verbalizing your moves is as obvious as it gets – and more often than not it creates strong resistance. It’s just unnecessary, and a very amateurish thing to do.


You can ignore that piece of advice – the only wrong part in the book.

An excellent bonus for a great book

While I wouldn’t suggest you memorize this (and I don’t think DICarlo would either) this will be useful to determine whether you are currently doing some moves at inappropriate times, and how to escalate smoothly.


A lot of this stuff has been common “seduction community” knowledge for a long time, but I’ve never seen it presented so clearly and exhaustively. There are also a lot of tips that are original and fresh. Overall, an awesome bonus.


This ebook can’t be bought by itself. To get it, you simply purchase The Attraction Code and this ebook will come as a bonus. Check out our review for details on The Attraction Code.

Overall Rating:
 
7.6
Effectiveness:
 
8.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
9.0
Innovativeness:
 
4.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
8.0
Value for Money:
 
9.0
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Feels like a free seminar

The Good Mostly solid advice. Some original and valuable ideas. Condensed, little fluff.
The Bad The speaker is young and some of the advice is particularly calibrated and/or only likely to work on young, party college girls types. Only one hour of material, which is short.

The Bottom Line While Sinn has valuable things to say, this DVD feels a bit like a free seminar, with a lot of concepts thrown around and briefly developed. Wait for a full-fledged product.
Swagger

This is one of the first products from Sinn, a former instructor from Mystery Method who now has his own coaching company.


In this DVD, Sinn presents his ideas on a seduction system he calls Swagger – as inspired by naturals who have that swagger to them.

A glitch in the system

Sinn starts by pointing out the problem with Mystery Method and the idea of using scripted stories to meet people: most guys burn out because they just can’t repeat the same thing over and over again every night, for months on end. If you have a more dynamic, free-flowing approach, it's easier to stick to it (and enjoy the process) over the long run.


He then explains the common newbie problem of becoming reaction-seeking, and using techniques as buttons you push on over and over again. When you this, you are still not evolving to be a cool person; you are just exploiting a glitch in the system - and people will eventually find out.


One point I found particularly useful was his explanation on how super hot women will always test you, the way that happens, and how to react to it. Ultimately, you have to find ways to build that unwavering certainty in order to pass those tests by simply being unreactive.


Another part I liked was how positivity is the mental equivalent of muscle mass - a survival trait. In my experience, the idea that hot women allow less negativity into their life is true - if only because they always have another choice if one option becomes too bleak.


Sinn goes on and touches a lot of points very quickly, among which dominance, identity stereotyping, being interesting enough to hold attention, not reinventing the wheel, humor, indifference, and many more.


The reason why I don't go into details here is because each point is talked about very briefly, and we’ll not recommend this product, as you will see below.

Young Game

The first issue I have with this DVD is minimal - Sinn is young, and it shows in some of his advice/game, as presented on this DVD at least.


His vibe is all about "Hi, I want to fuck you in the ass in the bathroom", which will work great on horny college party girls (if you can pull it off of course), but if you are a bit older and more into white collar 29-years-old lawyers type, not so much.


As I said, this is not a huge issue, because if you have a clue you can always ignore those bits. I could see it getting total newbies in trouble though, as Sinn does not mention calibration or context in this DVD.


Another point where his age shows is when he says you can't be too deep in attraction - you have to keep it playful, teasing, etc - you can't talk about serious stuff. Well, I beg to differ, and I'm sure Sinn will realize this is simplistic as he matures.

Feels like a free seminar

The other issue, which is specific to this product, is the big one. Although Sinn uses the term "system" at the beginning, the truth is this is only a broad introduction. The whole DVD barely runs for an hour, and while the content is good and quite dense, there is no real structure or build-up to it. It's kind of a "here is what I got" quick product, with lots of content thrown in but no time to develop any of it.


Therefore, while a good listen, it is not very practical - you get a laundry list of attributes you need (dominance, playfulness, confidence, etc) but no real explanation on how to get it. At the end of the day, it feels like a free seminar and should probably be a free video - a good advertisement for Sinn's coaching. Not really worth buying as a product though.


On the positive side, from the quality original ideas presented here, it’s obvious Sinn has valuable things to say, and we look forward to his new full-fledged release (Sinn’s Day Game DVD Set), which we will review soon.

Overall Rating:
 
4.0
Effectiveness:
 
3.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
6.0
Innovativeness:
 
5.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
5.0
Value for Money:
 
2.0
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Disappointing

The Good A few good tips on CD1.
The Bad Very small amount of content. Way too basic. Not original. Overpriced.
The Bottom Line Not recommended.
Slow pace

This product, from dating coach Cory Skyy, includes 3 audios CDs. It aims to teach the “magnetic mindset” for attracting women.


CD 1 has some good tips, but nothing particularly original. You learn the importance of confidence. You learn that women prepare for hours before they go out because they want men. That ultimately being attractive to women is about improving yourself. Etc etc.


All good points but hardly unheard of.


There is a good track with some tough love: Skyy explains that most guys want a confident girl who dresses well and turns heads - when they themselves are not confident and dress like slobs. The point being, you need to get off your ass and change your life to match the women you want. You got to do it – nobody will do it for you.


Many beginners hope to find the “magic pill” to attract women without changing anything to their life, so it’s always good to hear such down-to-earth, no-BS advice.


Unfortunately, the pace overall is crawling – it’s sloooooow. Cory repeats himself over and over again. By the end of CD1, I’m hoping we will get into some “meat” in the remaining 2 CDs.


Unfortunately, it turns out CD1 is the best of the bunch.

Visualizations

CD 2 is the story of Cory’s life, and the hardships he had to overcome, followed by him explaining how affirmations work.


CD 3 is him reading the affirmations, so you can play them to yourself.


So it turns out the whole “system” to acquire the supposedly “magnetic” mindset relies on visualization.


Now, I’m not against visualization myself. Visualizations work and are used by some excellent coaches and authors (from Napoleon Hill to Tony Robbins).


However, the reason they work is because they inspire you to take action. If you don’t take action, forget about seeing any results. Skyy does mention this once, but afterwards he repeats multiple times that if you just practice those diligently, you will magically change and get results (which kind of contradicts his “tough love” advice on CD 1).


Anybody who has ever taught a guy who is BAD with women knows it’s going to take a lot more work than that.


Furthermore, the affirmations he gives you here are not particularly special or elaborate (“I love women”, “Women love me”, etc etc). If you have any clue about affirmations and how they work (and if you don’t, google it), you can effectively design your own set of 15 affirmations by yourself, and they won’t sound any different.

The “Natural”

Cory Skyy is supposed to be the natural, a guy who is just naturally fabulously good with women. He has been described as such by quite a few instructors and coaches.


I have no reason to doubt his ability in attracting women (he certainly sound like a confident guy who gets results), but as a teacher he is far from fabulous, at least judging by these CDs.


Often “naturals” fail to explain exactly what they do or how to get there, and Cory Skyy falls exactly into that trap here.


This material is at the same time too high level (purely mindset, no concrete steps to improve yourself) and too basic (visualizing your way into the mindset is the only suggestion/technique you get).


The CDs are also seriously overpriced for the little amount of material they deliver.


Overall, we cannot recommend this product. For a better take on enhancing your mindset, you could check out:


-The Way of the Superior Man (by David Deida)


-The Attraction Code (by Vin DiCarlo)


-The Blueprint (by Real Social Dynamics)

Overall Rating:
 
3.2
Effectiveness:
 
2.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
7.0
Innovativeness:
 
1.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
8.0
Value for Money:
 
1.0
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Not the real deal

The Good Some lines are good, the post-conversations analysis is OK and contains useful tips.
The Bad All the conversations are staged, when we are told they are real.
The Bottom Line Sadly, this product is a big disappointment. Because it is staged, the vibe of the interactions overall is too off for anyone to learn or model anything.


UPDATE - December 2009: As a result of the review below, we have had an email exchange with the product creator, Christian Hudson, and he has decided to pull this product off the market. We commend him on doing the right thing. We have had good stuff to say about his latest product, Unbreakable (by Christian Hudson & Nick Sparks for The Social Man).





Live pick ups?

Listening to real, quality conversations is one of the most instructive things you can do when learning to attract women. It helps you a great deal to internalize the vibe and understand how it is done. So I was happy to check the Hidden Mic Pick Up recordings, from Christian Hudson, a guy whose advice I appreciated, having read his newsletter/blog a few times.



The website promised "hours of crystal-clear audio that will get your game rocking".



Unfortunately, I quickly understood the reason the audios are so clear - those "hidden mic" pick ups are fake. Staged. Scripted. Not real.

Crystal-clearly not real

The website also says "Every subsequent listen will get you closer to mastery, where your instincts will begin to evolve and become those of a natural", which is really ironic, because you must really be clueless (=have no instincts whatsoever) to not see this is fake as hell.



Voices are too clear. Tonalities are all wrong. Background music is never loud. All women sound like flirty porn stars. Most importantly, they all open straight away without reservation, helping the conversations like crazy, in other words, not acting realistically.



A newbie might not be able to tell, but if you have been in enough interactions, it is glaringly obvious within the first 30 seconds. Your alarm bells ring like crazy. You can just tell from the little subtleties of each exchange. These are fake. Every single one of them.

Off vibe

Now, it is quite simply dishonest to use actors and not tell people about it, and even worse to insist that it’s real, as the website does.



But beyond ethical issues, the staging completely undermines the teaching value here. See, this is not very well staged at all. To think some people might believe this is live, masterful seduction is scary. Newbies will get very confused if they try to imitate the voice tonality or general vibe of these conversations (which is exactly what they suggest you do – remember what I quoted earlier : “"Every subsequent listen will get you closer to mastery …” ).



Seriously, I don't enjoy shooting down a product in flames, but there is a lot of cringe-worthy stuff in here. Awkward laughs, badly timed silences….Mostly, this is just uncomfortable to listen to.



In fact, the bad acting remembers me of the Spanish lessons we were listening to in class when I was in high-school - you can even hear the actresses straining to get through it.

So-so conversations

So you might think, “well, at least the scripted conversations will be shining examples of masterful seduction, which will benefit me”. And unfortunately, that is not the case either. Most of the conversations are just not very good at all.



For example, on the Cocktail Party audios, he opens telling the girl to watch her alcohol intake - "you need to know your limits", etc etc. This sets him up in a serious, nerdy, fatherly frame - not the best frame to assume (see Beyond The Digits to understand why that is a common mistake). This is reinforced by the hesitant way in which he says his lines (a recurrent issue on most audios).



Then he asks her if she is a friend of the host. When she says a friend brought her there, he asks "how does it feel to tag along to a party?". Then he gets her name. Says her name is beautiful. And ask for the origins of the name.



I could go on, but you get the idea (and if you don’t get what’s wrong with the above, no worries, just go study some dating beginners’ material). While there is the occasional good line, overall the conversations are nothing special. The topics are borderline boring, and as explained earlier, the vibe is off. Hudson often sounds jumpy, nervous, and awkward – probably because he is playing a role instead of being normal. The irony is, I suspect he is way better in real life.

Unexpected disappointment

Christian Hudson's newsletter and posts are not bad. In those he seems to have common sense and good game. I honestly have no idea what he was thinking releasing this. I actually googled and read interviews from him at the launch of this product, to be double-extra-sure he claimed these were real - he did. The website still claims this is 100% real to this day.



Although some of the post-conversations analysis is interesting (which is why we still give it 3 stars in Effectiveness), we cannot recommend this to beginners, as these audios would set weird expectations for them and ultimately lead to more confusion.



For better (real) live conversations, check out Mehow's Get The Girl! Infield Exposed instead.

Overall Rating:
 
2.2
Effectiveness:
 
3.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
3.0
Innovativeness:
 
1.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
3.0
Value for Money:
 
1.0
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Good Intro To Mehow - Simplified Mystery Method

The Good A lot of very practical tips. Very well put together. A lot of the good stuff from Mystery Method, without some of the unnecessary complexity.
The Bad A lot of the ideas are (openly) borrowed from other sources (mostly Mystery Method). Overpriced.
The Bottom Line This is a solid book on approaching women, but it is a bit overpriced compared to comparable products.
An Introduction to Mehow’s Method

This is the introduction ebook to Mehow’s methods to meet women.



Mehow is a former student of another famous coach (Mystery), and a lot of what he teaches is inspired by the ideas and techniques of Mystery Method.



Therefore, this is not a book about how to date better or understanding the theory of attraction. It is a very hands-on pick up book that will teach you how to cold approach and talk to women you have never met.

A Genuine Disadvantage In Looks

Mehow is a 35 years old, pale, skinny, balding guy. Yet he still gets results with young, beautiful women. This makes his advice all the more relevant because he is one of the few gurus who can claim to have a genuine disadvantage in terms of looks.



The book starts with a list of attractive qualities a man wants to have: living in your own world, being unreactive, displaying value, being pre-selected, etc etc.



If you have studied attraction for a while, this is nothing new. The good news is, this list is the only “theory” you get in the book. After that, it’s purely practical tips on how to talk to women and attract them.



What Mehow presents here is a system for learning how to display all those attractive qualities easily. You learn to create interest and emotional stimulation in the people you are talking to. Everything you do is a subcommunication technique – including what you do in opening, conversations, etc – to showcase how much of a valuable and interesting person you are.

A Structured Approach: Better For Beginners

When you try to meet people naturally, without a plan, it’s “hit or miss”, says Mehow. It is necessary for beginners to use a more structured approach when they get started.



I can only agree here – a structured, detailed approach is invaluable for newbies who are clueless about social dynamics – just telling them “be natural, “have fun”, “be in the moment” (see The Flawless Natural) is helpful but they’ll miss out on a lot of opportunities if they don’t further their understanding of the basics.



The bottom line is, beginners need to understand the subtleties of what is going on “below the radar”, before they can relax and forget about it.



And they get that here. There are literally hundreds of concrete tips you can use in this book, far too many for me to list here. Basically almost everything you need in terms of cold approaching is covered, from getting over the initial “hi” to creating attraction, from touching women in a comfortable way to vibing with their friends. It is very thorough when it comes to the practicalities of pick up, just like Mystery Method’s ebooks are (see our review of Mystery’s Revelation ebook).



The good thing about Mehow’s system is that it is structured, without being rigid. You get tons of concrete steps, but you can also adapt them to your needs. In a way, Mehow is fine-tuning Mystery Method and making more simple and easy to apply.



For example, Mehow solves the problem of “negging”, which is a technique in Mystery Method that many guys just do wrong. Mehow’s approach, based on push-pull or love-hate teases, is much easier to use and harder to misunderstand. Teasing, Mehow explains, is not about “dropping her value down” (like negging is) but about subcommunicating that you are having fun and don’t care too much about getting her.



Mehow’s break down of the phases of each interaction is also simply labeled – Attraction, Comfort, etc – with none of the over complexity you can encounter in Mystery’s books.

Story-telling & Handling Interrupts

On story-telling, the book particularly shines. In this system, stories are a way to ground yourself, introduce who you are to the women you meet, in a way that is smooth and attractive. Therefore, you learn to build stories with attractive quality embedded.



This allows you to demonstrate your accomplishments, ambitions and inner values through stories. Very useful for the guys who don’t know how to put their best foot forward, or for those who run out of things to say.



Another useful chapter is on how to handle interrupts – what to do when someone interrupts you as you talk to a woman you like.



All of this may sound complicated, but he emphasizes being in the moment and not thinking too much during interactions. With practice, you naturally integrate his tips into what you do.

Not Original, But Well Put Together

A lot of the material here is borrowed from other sources – mostly from Mystery, who is often credited. Mehow has done a great job at presenting it in a logical, linear progression, in a way that makes sense to the reader.



This ebook is very well put together, well illustrated. You can tell it was put together with care, including in the way the teaching is presented.



For example, each of the attractive qualities listed at the beginning is referenced throughout the book, every time it is used in a technique. This is useful and provides clarity for the student.



Another plus is the absence of fluff - the book jumps almost from the start into the details of opening women and seducing them. In fact it’s almost too quick – there is almost no theory here. Complete beginners probably should read this book together with another one more focused on the overall psychology of attraction (such as Double Your Dating).


The Bottom Line

Overall this is a solid introduction to the structured, indirect approach of pick up. It was released together with an excellent “in field” DVD set, presenting live, real pick ups where Mehow uses the techniques outlined in the ebook (see our review of the ”Get The Girl! Infield Exposed” DVD set).



One problem though is the price: at 147 bucks (Editor's Note: Price was reduced since this review to under $100, a similar price to Revelation referenced below), this is significantly more expensive than Mystery’s products, including his ebooks Mystery Method and the more recent Revelation - both of which contain just as much gold or more.

Overall Rating:
 
6.4
Effectiveness:
 
9.0
Ease of Implementation:
 
5.0
Innovativeness:
 
3.0
Packaging/ Customer Service:
 
9.0
Value for Money:
 
6.0
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Last updated: December 16, 2009
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