Reviews written by Angel Donovan

It comes with 2 audio CDs (Session 5 and Session 6), the original Monte Carlo Sessions making up Sessions 1 to 4.

Context of Zan Perrion's Advice

Are you a fan of David Deida's work such as Way of the Superior Man? Zan's work builds on and around similar concepts and ideas while offering a very different 'romantic' view on life at the same time. Studying both these men and their advice is something I'd recommend for anyone interested in establishing more meaningful and longer term relationships with women.

Note: If you are still in your early 20s or late teens, you are unlikely to be at that stage where Zan will be teaching you something you want to learn - life's a journey - and it has stages with different needs at each stage. While his advice is really valuable to all age groups realize you may not be at the point where you want to engage with his style of advice if you are still early on in your journey as a man.

Challenging Perspectives on How to Attract Women

His perspective challenges that of some of many of the teachers of pick up artist based dating advice - in particular where it comes to who has the control and how much control you have in the process of attraction. Most pick up artist methods focus on 'taking control' of situations while Zan Perrion's encourages you to 'let go' more.

Attraction is kept simple and straightforward focusing on the few things that Zan sees as important (which includes a much smaller set of things to keep track of than most approaches to attracting women).

In my opinion some of the good pick up artist methods will get you more short term success with women (especially if you are less experienced with women), but Zan's is the path to longer term satisfaction with your dating life. Valuable stuff, and challenging for those who have been working with pick up artistry for a while.

Harsh Truths

Other noteworthy perspectives he brings are the aspects of your journey in relationships and your self that will continuously be an ongoing process of work.

It is one of the clearest descriptions I've heard on the process of improving how we deal with relationships with women over the longer term to date.

This material is valuable to people who either have not yet really bitten the bullet to change their dating life despite having hovered around dating advice for a long time (if you've known about dating advice for years and nothing has really changed - that's you). It will also provide useful ideas to those who despite having changed their dating life in many ways still feel that they are 'not yet there' particularly in relationships, and there is some magic bullet left to click in place.

Relationships Philosophy and the Life Journey

He touches on links to 'self development', the pickup artist and seduction community movements and how it all fits into the journey of life.

Scenarios for Application to Your Life

• Men who have been married and divorced.


• Men aged in their 30s onwards.


• Men who want to work on improving the depth of longer term relationships with women.


• Men who have a lot of success in dating but are still left feeling unsatisfied.


• Men who aspire to attraction and relationship mastery (Adding Zan's perspective will help round out your perspective to get the bigger picture - not to be missed).

Some Weaker Rambling Parts of the Course

On the upside, these are personal to Zan, and offer insights into his psyche, however it's harder to get value from this unless you are committed to studying and modeling Zan's approach to life and relationships. Most people are not and will overlook this value as it's harder to access.

End result: You may get bored and feel disappointed with these parts - even getting a bit confused as to where he is going with it.

The Bottomline

If you are in your 30s or older, or you take a very mature and long term view towards relationships, have a lot of dating success but remain unsatisfied by relationships - the answer is Yes.

On first look, it's overall packaging is a bit dated (no formatting, ugly images, looks like a circa pre-2000 ebook) - which immediately gives you the feeling that it isn't a high quality product. At first look I'd write it off as likely to be a waste of time reading, but the content is actually a lot better than the impression the packaging portrays. Let's take a look...

Good Structure, a lot of Sound Psychology and Newbie Friendly

The best thing about this product was its simplicity and how friendly it is for first readers of dating advice or anything psychology and relationship related. The vast majority of men pick up their first relationship or dating book when a girlfriend they like breaks up with them. So the content is well calibrated to the audience from that respect - anyone can pick up this book and use it with ease thanks to it spelling everything out in simple and 'down to earth' terms.

An example of how this benefits you is that you get told at each stage of the book what not to do with lots of examples. This is great, because it doesn't leave any guesswork for a newbie reader. He often lists things you should not do which will help you to avoid making the biggest mistakes.

Unfortunately, it turns out that its simplicity is also the 'achilles heel' of this product and led us to the decision to not recommend you buy it. More on that in further down...

Advice Quality Diluted by Trying to Help both Men and Women Audiences

By writing for both sexes the author is trying to please both sides (and not offend either) rather than just writing something focused that will help the person with exactly their needs and challenges.

Some of the more specific issues that this translates to for guys is that:

1. Situations were brought up that were just not realistic or likely for 'men' but there was no clear explanation that these were in fact 'situations more relevant to women.' I know a lot about dating and advice so it was clear to me - me fear is that it wouldn't be for the men reading this book.

2. The book is too 'soft spoken' and nicey in the slant of its advice for men. Not something I would consider to be helpful to a guy who has just broken up with his girlfriend more likely than not because he has been acting too weak (it's the #1 reason for women dumping men).

Note: We are of course reviewing this purely for its usefulness to a man who has broken up with his ex girlfriend and wants to get her back.

The Dangers of Over Simplification

The information and advice on two sections of the process in particular, understanding why the break up took place and how to get back with your ex, make this mistake.

The part on understanding why you've broken up provides some misleading ideas that simplify it all down to one reason (that the author says is different for a man and a woman). Since he doesn't advise you to act on that information (it's just for your own psychology) this isn't that a big deal. I can let it pass.

The larger issue is where T.W. Jackson advises you to use some tactics to help you get back with your ex. Two examples are the technique named the instant reconnect technique and another is the handwritten letter. There are many situations where these techniques would come off as weird or could further reduce your ex-girlfriend's attraction to you. I would strongly recommend you use neither of them (if you get the book) because the odds are that they'll backfire.

The techniques are often not given with enough information to help you calibrate them to the situation (necessary for success and avoiding a nasty rejection).

Part of the reason for this is that the book is short at 62 pages with a large sized font and just isn't large enough to cover the ground it is attempting to cover. The author also wanders into areas out of his expertise such as nutrition and fitness advice (which is dated and not particularly good quality) which takes up valuable space in that 62 pages that could've been used to add more information around actions he proposes you take.

The other issue is where he recommends high risk - low return techniques. They have a high risk of causing more damage with no big upside in most cases. The handwritten letter is an example of this - I can see how it would work in some very specific examples, but they are not the most common ones. It's just a really bad idea.

The Bottomline

Check the ranking of get your ex back advice for better options. To give you the best chance of getting your ex back we suggest you learn the basics of being attractive with a beginner's manual (e.g. Double your dating ebook). Attraction always plays a role in a break up, so it will give you the background to understand what went wrong. It's something you can't ignore.

The first 5 modules of the 6 modules in this course are actually made up from previous Mehow products (The One(der) System and How to Talk 2 Hot Women). In these first 5 modules you learn how to get girls and girlfriends.

See the reviews of The One(der) System and How to Talk 2 Hot Women to find out what we thought of those first 5 modules.

In this review we are reviewing only Module 6 - The NSA (No Strings Attached) Model, which is the part specifically related to dating multiple women.

What is NSA (Module 6) About?

What are the Negatives?

• - Drama: Drama for and from the girls because they aren't happy with the situation. This drama can be energy sapping, take all the fun out of the relationships and otherwise distract your from the good stuff in life.


• - Hurting the Girls: You can hurt girls when you give them the wrong expectations or when you put them in bad social situations.


• - Affecting the Rest of Your Life: Creating messy situations with multiple women can spill out and affect your social life, work and other aspects of your life. A lot more common that you would think.

For a great autobiographical account of what not to do and how to bring a lot of dissatisfaction into your life via dating multiple women check out Nine Ball by Jeff Allen where he recounts among other things about how girls smash up his car to bring vengeance back upon him and his ex-girlfriend working systematically to turn his girlfriends against him.

Not Just About the Negatives

Mehow tackles these lightly, with tips to learn on making the most of the situation in terms of not letting the fact that you are dating multiple girls lead to only superfical relationship with no intimacy or connection and exploring your girls' bisexuality and the possibility of threesomes.

More on the limitations of his exploration further down...

Practical Rules to Follow

These include what to do before you sleep with her and during the relationship and, more importantly, what not to do. Most of the mastery behind dating multiple women in a positive way comes down to not doing the things that sabotage the situation for both you and the girl.

Most of it is easy to do and implement.

Left Unexplored - Polygamy and Other Models

It's the most suitable method I've seen so far for the majority of women - meaning it works with more women than other methods.

There are other models that people have successfully used. The most notable is polygamy which is perhaps most loudly evangelized in terms of dating advice today by Johnny Soporno, who has a background in the porn / swingers communities. It's a different model and not relevant to the majority of women.

Realities of Threesomes - but Lacks Depth

There are certainly some good points he makes, but if you are specifically interested in threesomes it isn't the best advice - it lacks perspective, and has has some limiting beliefs on some levels.

The Bottomline

If you're struggling with juggling multiple relationships or you're taking your first steps it's really a no brainer to buy.

It's good to see a product that focuses on this goal as this is exactly what most guys want, and this is a good attempt to put all the pieces you need in one box.

Keep in mind that this is an ambitious goal for one product and it's also the first attempt I've seen - hope to see more products like this.

Note: You can also buy this product as part of the NSA System (it actually just means you get the additional NSA content packaged together with the One(der) system content).

The One(der) system includes the "How to Talk 2 Hot Women" program as part of it. See the review for that part here.

Good Approach and Strategy

What makes it stand out is that it integrates concepts like social skills (aka social circle game) and steadily building a solid relationship with the girl you are interested in. Mehow spends quite a bit of time talking about the things you shouldn't do that could jeopardize having a solid relationship with her - this is just as important as telling you what to do.

Something to keep in mind is also that the system is aimed at getting high quality girls with lots of options. So it emphasizes the need for things like jealousy which are less necessary and can even mess up your chances if used with less challenging or 'in demand' women. Using jealousy needs to be calibrated to the girl, but Mehow doesn't discuss calibrating to the girl sufficiently. It's the one area of weakness in his approach that could use more information to make it easier to implement.

Tackles the Tricky Situations that May be Involved when You Want that One Girl

Typical dating advice tells you not to focus too much on any one girl - and explains that there is an element of playing the odds with dating as well. This system goes against that trend because it is set up for you to get the one girl you are really interested in no matter the situation. So instead of telling you to avoid the difficult situations and move on to a new girl, it gives you advice to make the best of the situation.

Typically this involves steps to take to minimize the problems (e.g. rejection and social repercussions) and some rules to follow.

Example situations include where your girl has been a long time friend that doesn't think of you romantically, your ex-girlfriend or someone you work with or the girl has a boyfriend already.

The advice was all spot on for these situations - excellent. See my comment on 'hidden gems' below for more on the advice on getting ex-girlfriends back.

Solid Mature Relationship Skills Advice

Overall this contained a lot of quality advice that will make a big difference in your ability to keep the relationship and make it a good experience for both of you.

While there wasn't a ton of detail, or lots of relationship theory here, Mehow manages to cover most of the important 'action items'. It is solid mature advice that works, and to date I haven't seen anything as comprehensive in the practical relationship skills area - great work.

There were a few gaps in the advice that if filled would have made this an outstanding product:

• - Lack of Example Situations: Especially for guys with little relationship experience it would have been really useful to talk through the typical situations and issues that come up more. There are a few examples, but it could've been a lot more comprehensive.


• - Fuzzy 10 Fundamental Needs: Mehow lists 10 fundamental needs at one point but doesn't go enough into explanation of what they mean in practical terms or with examples to make it useful. It's the only part of the program that is too theoretical.


• - True Qualfication: The area of "True Qualification" (a Mehow Inc. invention) is discussed with some examples, but the examples aren't very good and don't communicate it clearly enough. It needs more work. He's on the right track, but I don't see many people being able to implement it with what was given here.
• - Blind Spots in the Program:
  There were a few areas he under-emphasized which need to be addressed, see a bit further down in this review for details.

Originality in the Practical

Where the course does bring more value is that he gets deeper into the practical implementation details and does it by focusing on the most important points most of the time. This makes the course useful even if you have heard some of it before from the aforementioned coaches.

A lot of the value of the course is that he has done a good job of pulling together some of the better advice and ignoring the not so good, and it's pretty practical. He always gives you specific things to say and do whenever he discusses something - he never leaves you just with the theory wondering how to implement it.

Blindspots in the Program

The most significant two are physical fitness and lifestyle.

1. - Physical Fitness: Mehow has overcome his own limitations of being a skinny guy by compensating with other factors. As a result of having overcoming it he underplays the impact improving your physique can have - he says it's not something you should work on. While it's not a 'requirement' to improve it, working on your physical fitness does make it a lot lot easier for you. Your skills don't have to be as good to get the best results - so it's a no brainer to do. I'd put this down just to him never having 'experienced' the impact of it himself since he's never worked on fixing his skinny physique.


2. - Lifestyle: He does bring the subject up and he talks around it, but it takes a big back seat to the emphasis placed on conversation. It's a pity, because you can tell from what he is saying that he has worked on his lifestyle - he just doesn't emphasize this element enough in the program especially in the section on "Keeping your One(der) girl"


3. - Sexual skills: This topic isn't really touched on at all during the "Keeping her" section of the course. Sex is a huge part of relationships and can make or break any relationship. Girls will sometimes stay with you for a while based on good sex alone - even when everything else is bad, and may leave you when it's not good even when everything else is - it's that impactful - so it really had to be discussed. Perhaps mehow didn't discuss this because he doesn't give sex advice?

Slight Confusions in Terminology

Beginners won't notice this more liberal definition - and it has no impact on the actual implementation of the advice.

Additional Highlights - Hidden Gems

In particular, it has some straightforward 'getting your ex girlfriend' back advice. There are many products out there that specifically target this topic, and none of them have as good advice as this product (in fact most of them have bad advice - see reviews here: Getting Ex Back Advice).

If more advice was added to getting over the break up and filling out the process towards getting back together this would have got an Editors' Choice award on the topic of 'Getting Your Ex Back'. As it stands, it's still the best out there - so we'll be recommending guys get this if they're in that situation as it's still great advice - although not comprehensive.

The Bottomline

If you have studied a bit of advice but are still beginner and have this objective this would be a good fit for you or if you are getting success with women but are having difficulty going beyond one night stands or short relationships this will help you identify where you're going wrong and fixing it.

Hidden gem: If you are looking for a product to help you get your ex-girlfriend back - this is the best we've found to date.

This program is a great addition to the world of dating advice.

As with his previous systems most of the material is based on the original Mystery Method with his own upgrades and practical details added in.

At time of writing this review the course was only sold as part of the NSA System and One(der) System courses.

More Practical, Less Theory

This is typical of Mehow - he tries to keep things to a manageable list of ideas to learn rather than giving you too much information.

The content is a 'staged' demonstration conversation between Mehow and Megan (a girl he met recently). Megan has not been prepared and is not aware of any of Mehow's methods or pick up technology prior to the conversation. So Mehow tries to steer the conversation through his list of 13 conversation tools so that you can get examples of what each of them sounds like as if you were listening to a conversation between a guy and a girl where they take place.

Using Staged Demonstrations with Hot Woman as a Learning Tool

It was tried in Mind of Mystery and Pandora's Box interviews with women to highlight two better known examples. Both were disappointing in terms of the usefulness of the content given by the women participating.

Mehow has done a better job in "How to Talk 2 Hot Women" than the aforementioned products at creating a learning experience from a woman's participation, however it still has its issues.

First, it's a real pity that this program isn't video (it's audio), it would have given you more insights thanks to be able to see eye contact, body language and the important non-verbal elements.

Second, as with all of these programs, the challenge lies in that most women (just like most men) don't understand dating advice (why should they) and will most often verbally disagree with it. Research shows that how people act and what they say they think or will do is often very different (especially when its not anonymous participation as with these interviews). Which compounds the problem.

It takes an unusually self-aware person in terms of sexuality, attraction and social intelligence to understand and add value to the discussion - or someone who has specifically studied the area and human behavior and understands the research issues involved.

Mehow has selected a woman for the demonstration who is certainly above average in her social intuition and intelligence. This helps. However, she is also young at 24 years old (and lacks life experience compared to say a 30 or 40 year old) and of a very specific personality type (feisty/ sassy) which leads to biases in the demonstrations and discussion. The conversation is primarily mostly 'challenging' and 'attraction' based. More on this later...

Disorganized: Messy and a lot of Distraction

Mehow doesn't 'tag' everything that is said throughout so you are left mostly to figure out what is what from his list of conversation tools.

The end result is that a beginner in particular may not understand what is going on during the demonstration and get confused about what is being used when and what is an example of what.

If Mehow had made the demonstration 'pure conversation' between him and Megan and narrated over the top similar to how he does in his infield insider series it would have made it a lot easier to follow and learn from.

Benefits and Disadvantages of the Biased Conversation Style

For complete beginners this is in 99% of cases not a problem, because one of your largest skills gaps is that you don't know how to speak attractively or emotionally with women. If you are aware of this, and need to better understand how 'attraction' based conversation flows this could be very helpful to you. Remember that this is just one style of conversation you should be able to use however.

On the other hand, one of the biggest 'sticking points' that men studying dating advice have come up against is where they focus only on 'attraction material'. Typically guys at intermediate level can get stuck with habits of using only attraction conversation techniques and they'll get good initial interactions with women, but then get no further.

Attraction only based material can work well with a young girl like Megan because she is very sassy - but she's not typical, and maybe not the type of girl you like. There are many other types of girls for which just using attraction based conversation will not work as well. We discuss this a bit more in our review of The 4 Elements of Game.

The Bottomline

The one situation where it could be worth your while getting it, is if you're a beginner and are aware that you don't understand how 'attraction' conversation styles sound you can get some examples from this course to help get clear about it. The demonstrations are biased towards the aspects of communication that most beginners are weakest in - attraction, edge, dominance etc. so I can see it being useful for an additional 'support' with other products to help you really get it and get your implementation solid.

If you do get this, just remember your conversations shouldn't only sound like this, it's just one part - there is more to attracting women.

It's a pity that the demonstration part of the course is so disorganized and that it isn't in video. Fixing those two aspects would've made it a much better learning tool.

The call was set up to to promote PUA Training's Rapid Success Mastery package offer in June 2009 (a prelude offer to launch Pickup Mastery University).

The last 15 minutes of the call have Gambler explaining what the Rapid Success Mastery package includes and how to purchase it.

A Product Marketed as Something it Isn't

First, the strangest thing about this product is that it actually has nothing to do with its title. There is no specific content related to 9s and 10s. I can only imagine that the title was just the coolest headline that PUA Training came up with to market the audio as a product as an after thought.

A more fitting title would have been "Answers to Common Questions Asked by Students" or even better "Common Questions from People that Have Read Gambler's Book 'The Natural Art of Seduction'".

Second, a lot of the audio actually contains marketing and promotional material for PUA Training and their Rapid Success Mastery offer. It's okay to include a little bit of marketing in products (e.g. info about other products etc.), most companies do it, but this is a different story.

Having got past this misleading marketing weirdness... let's move on to the actual content.

What the Audio Actually Contains

Then he dives into 7 questions and one tip:

• 1. What is best to use - routines or natural game?


• 2. What should you do if you are approaching lots of 'sets' in bars but hardly any of them are hooking?


• 3. What am I not doing right if I'm staying in set for a long time but it never goes anywhere.


• 4. How is day game different from night game?


• 5. I don't feel comfortable in conversations. I've tried tried routines, but they don't work for me. What should I do?


• 6. When I use negging of cocky and funny approaches they don't seem to work for me. What am I doing wrong?


• 7. I've tried to use DHV stories but they don't really work for me, what should I do.


• 8. Tip - Your learning approach

Value of the Content

The content is very similar to that contained in Gambler's book. Overall it's basic content, okay, but has nothing that stands out and it is a bit dated now.

Most of the advice is designed to address issues that people were coming up against after having been practicing pick up for a while and running into the same problems. Some of it is still valid and useful but overall this course has nothing to make it stand out or merit the time spent listening to it versus much better courses out there. There is also little to none that is original.

It also has to be said that in some parts Richard doesn't even explain the techniques he discusses as there isn't time to get into the details. For question 4 for example he talks about the importance of timing but doesn't explain what that means at all. That's not what you'd expect from a product of course - which goes back to the point that this is actually a teleconference repackaged 'badly' as a product as an afterthought.

The Bottomline

If you're a beginner and you are buying this as part of the Master Pickup Artist University then it may be worth your time listening to the 30 minutes in the middle, but it's definitely not something worth buying in its own right. Give this one a miss.

The title of the product is a little misleading, as it sounds like you will learn about all aspects of social domination. A better and more accurate title would have been "Simple Strategy for Expanding Your Social Circle around the Club Scene".

Insights into the Social Dynamics in Clubs and the High-end Club Scene

He quickly explains the importance of social circle to your lifestyle and its benefits over cold approaching, then he
identifies the roles that women, promoters and other men in the club will play in the club and how to work with those roles and their situations to befriend people and build a social circle around them.

He doesn't give you an extensive explanation of their roles - instead he keeps it to what is important to focus on for his strategy to work. He lets you know what you have to avoid, and what you have to make sure happens to work towards your goals.

It's a simple and straight forward explanation and will keep you focused on the right things.

Simple and Effective Strategy

This is not the case for this course. Ruina keeps it very simple and walks you step by step through a basic strategy that he has used to build and expand his social circle around the club scene.

Who Will this Work for?

It is ideal for a guy who is getting some reasonable success with fairly attractive women and would like to leverage this to improve his overall lifestyle and get access to better club venues, higher quality women and start to work on learning how to leverage the social skills he has acquired to build more value in his life.

I recommend this product as the first stepping stone to moving from a cold approach based game to social circle game. It will get you comfortable with this more strategic approach to improving your dating and relationships lifestyle and open your eyes to wider possibilities.

Not Much Hand Holding for Implementation

As noted above this is fine if you are at an intermediate stage - you should have basic social skills already and be able to do this comfortable. However, if you are the type of person who needs everything spelled out to you in terms of what you should say, how you should act etc. keep in mind this type of detail is not included in this product. If that is you, you should be looking at improving your social skills with other products before buying this one.

Current Offer's Billing and Other Included Products

Not Comprehensive - What's Missing form a Full Social Circle Product

If you are looking to understand and master all of the dynamics of social circles and master your social life and the social circles you take part in or lead the best product on the market is Social Circle Mastery by Love Systems. Take note though - that product is only for the advanced.

The Bottomline

It's simplicity makes it easily implementable and effective.

The course is great value for money with PUA Training's current inexpensive offer.

In this review I discuss only the second part of the program, which is a course spread over 32 weeks with you getting access to new videos of women being interviewed by Brian Burke. The women have been selected based on the Pandora's Box "8 Personality Types", and the purpose is to give you a better understanding of the base system. Brian Burke explores different aspects of their personalities.

There are a number of additional programs that you are offered within the membership site. These include:

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  Seduce Me.
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  Unleash Her Inner Nymphomaniac.
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  Intensive Phone Coaching.



Complaints about Billing


Please pay attention. Since this product has launched we've had continuous complaints about the billing.


These complaints come from people who don't understand that when they buy this product they are being signed up for a weekly subscription to Pandora's Box 32 week PhD in Female Sexuality. It is charged $24.77 per week ($99.80 each month, billed at beginning of the month) and the first payment is charged to your credit card 14 days after purchase of this product.


To be clear: You pay $69.95 when you sign up, then 14 days afterwards you will be billed $98. Then 1 month later you will be billed $99.80 again. This continues each month for 7 and a half months. The total cost of the program ends up at $818.45.


Dicarlo DiClassified showed us how they have made an effort to make this clear on their sales and billing pages. Nonetheless they say themselves they still get around 15% of their cancellations attributed to the issue and we continue to hear from customers who are 'surprised' to find these bills on their credit cards and don't know how to stop them.


To conclude, read carefully what I have written above to avoid those nasty credit card charge surprises, and if you buy it keep your support emails sent to you on purchase so that you can cancel easily if you want to later.



Large Volume of Training Content


This course contains around 20 hours of content to study. It is the largest course I've ever seen for dating skills. The reason it has so much content is because most of it is made up of interviews with women, that go from between 20 minutes to 30 minutes in length.


Once per month on the program you are given a bonus with audio, PDF or video content to study. This is given the week you are billed with your next monthly payment.


This training is spread out over 32 weeks - so you are investing around 1 to 2 hours a week in the program on average. For many guys this is probably manageable.


For me personally this was a downside. Because of the interview format, the training is made pretty 'time inefficient'. Instead of getting straight to the point, you watch and learn from observing and listening to the women discuss topics given to them by Brian Burke.


This couldn't have been helped if the interviews were well run. At times, however, Brian seems unprepared for the interviews and he doesn't take control to bring the interviews to the relevant subjects when the girls wander to irrelevant subjects too much. Examples like where women get into specific details of facial features they particularly like (strong eyebrow descriptions) for instance (1 minute discussion).



The Realities of Understanding Women through Interviews


I watched the first 6 weeks of videos and find them to be very time consuming with little directly implementable information.


It's a nice idea to interview women from each of the 8 personality types. It makes the personality types come alive. However, unless you at an advanced level already I think you'll find it hard to make use of this.


Women - rarely - discuss directly in a way that reflects reality their sexuality, attraction and related topics. Studies by marketing researchers over the last 100 years show that what people say, doesn't reflect their behavior or what they do in general topics. The gap between what is said and what is done is far greater when it comes to more repressed subjects like sexuality and sexual choice.


I didn't find these videos to be any different. I could see the differences in the women, what was behind what they were saying - how they are different and will respond differently - but I've been studying and experimenting with dating advice for over 10 years. Would you see through and behind what the women are saying?



Quality of Videos and Packaging


The quality of the program videos and documents is good. It's all well put together, and care has been taken over the packaging. You won't be disappointed with the presentation of the product - it's a professional job.


Disappointment After Over Promising Marketing


The marketing for this program is pretty aggressive with what it promises. This is not that unusual for products in the dating advice market, and is unfortunate.


If you are going to buy this make sure to read these reviews about the real potential of the product, rather than accept what the marketing and sales videos tell you about it. Be realistic about what you could get out of it.


This is an interesting program with some insights about women, but it is no "magic bullets". Magic bullets don't exist. If you of an experienced level there is value to be got from this program from study, and experimentation. I know that experienced / advanced guys are more realistic about what they can get for these programs - so i'm not worried about them getting 'taken in' by the marketing so much.


So this message is for you if you are new to dating advice and inexperienced with women. As I've mentioned in the main Pandora's Box program review - this program isn't well adapted for you. Check through our beginner's rankings for programs that are a better fit for you.


The Bottomline


The full Pandora's Box program is an ambitious attempt to further the field of dating science. The direction is right, but it is lacking in implementation.


Without more clarity on the advice for implementation and specific actions the vast majority of men will have difficulty applying this effectively and making use of it.


Under what condition should you buy this? If you are at a very advanced level, have the time to invest, want to push the edge, and don't mind the $800 plus price point - you could get some value from this.


Get ready to invest some time to work out how to implement it properly yourself.

September 2011 Update on Product Version

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  1. Via the StealthAttraction.com website: $69.95 initial purchase price + monthly subscription of $69.95 to Master Pick Up Artist University if you stay on program longer than 14 days.


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See our notes on billing for this version further down the review and our reviews of Master Pick Up Artist University.

Introduction

The content is really aimed there, although of course you could use the techniques on women who are not at the higher status / quality end of the range to great effect. For higher status women these types of techniques are a requirement though, so it makes sense to think of it in that context.

High End Clubs & Bars

Higher end clubs have a different vibe because you are going to see the same people repeatedly - and avoiding getting rejected is important as a result. A few blow outs in situations like this and your social reputation will start landsliding sabotaging your future efforts. Good intro.

Discretion = Higher Status

The main point of this program is stealth. I'd label it "discretion" though. There are a few courses that talk about discretion, however this is the first I've reviewed that focuses on it in a lot of detail.

Discretion is something I've focused on a lot over the later years of my development, because it is a lot more important to higher quality girls and higher status people. It's a skillset that I think has been under-valued and emphasized so i was glad to see that when I got into this course - it was all about discretion.

Another word for discretion would be 'Social Intelligence' or Socially Savvy. People who get it. If you think about it, these are all qualities that say 'higher value'. This is why discretion (or being subtle) is important to attracting the highest quality women.

Discretion is an abstract term though. And subtle things aren't easy to teach in their nature.

This course takes an approach that deals with this problem well though....

Very Practical - Most of the Content is Explained with Specific Examples

The content itself stays away from abstraction and theory. It is really a large collection of techniques that Gambler uses in high end night club venues.

Many of these are non-verbal techniques and he walks you through them step by step.

Example are, put your leg here, move your hands like this. Do this with both of your hands, make this facial expression etc. etc. All very practical and hands-on.

This program is a video program and that aspect is essential, because to really study, you'd want to look at the subtleties of what Richard is doing. With video you can see all of that and playback or freeze frame to understand properly the facial expressions and so on.

Stealth Attraction is delivered to you through a membership forum where you can read and post questions in the comments for each video. Richard is very hands-on in giving feedback to everyone who posts questions. He answered every question I saw in the forum and there are a lot. This hands-on support will make it a lot easier for you to implement.

Who is this Relevant For?

This course is ideal for someone who wants to start meeting and attracting women of a higher quality, who are of higher social status, and for meeting women in high end venues (e.g. exclusive clubs, high end social events).

In the comments for some of this course I saw questions that were clearly from guys who were still at a beginner level and were struggling to get success from the techniques.

Most of the problem is that they can't see and notice the subtle signs that women are giving because of their lack of experience. So make sure you have experience and have learned the basics before getting this.

Richard provides basic advice to these guys in the comments also, but really they would be a lot better off in first studying the basics before trying this.

What Should You Have Done Before Getting this Program?

Let me explain.

The tactics in Stealth Attraction work to force women to get 'warmed' up to you before you approach them, attract them and so on. In pick up terminology this is referred to as "Forcing the IOI (Indicator of Interest)".

If you have your image, style, body language and body fitness level all down. The techniques will work for you. If you don't have these things down, mysteriously, these techniques will not work for you.

It will not be due to the techniques though, it will be because you are not yet at a point where your image exudes enough value to be able to pull the techniques off.

Here's a quick test for you to judge if you are ready - beyond doing the checklist of the items I just mentioned. Do you often notice women paying attention to you? If so you are probably ready to use the content in this program to great effect.

Downsides to the Program?

Sometimes guys don't understand how membership programs work when they get on them and get confused about billing. Read the next part so you understand how it works and you won't get any surprises.

A Word About Pricing and Billing

$4.95 is an exceptional deal for this program. It's really a no-brainer to buy it if you fit the criteria I've laid out above. Of course PUA Training are counting on you staying on the program because you found it so useful - which if the other content on the program is as good as this, I wouldn't be surprised if you do.

The Bottomline

If you're not there yet check out our ranking of Image and fashion advice to get working on that instead - or learn some basics of Attracting Women.
It is ideal for guys who want to improve the quality of women they are getting and in particular for meeting and attracting more women in higher end venues and clubs or social situations.

Adding these techniques and the 'discrete' approach to your skillset will make a big difference to the quality of women you attract.

At the price point offered - it's also an exceptionally great deal. This product is a Must Get for guys who want to get more success in higher end venues and with higher status women.

Healthy Mindsets and Practical

It doesn't contain any super groundbreaking concepts. The value in this book is getting you to focus on the practical activities and the mindsets (ways of looking at college life and how you should approach it). If you apply them with energy they will work for you.

The writer puts a good energy into the book - which will help to motivate some people. Applying the advice will take energy and effort, and most probably changing your habits and what you typically spend your time doing at college. It goes without saying that if you aren't prepared to do those things - then don't expect to get the results.

Writing and Advice Style

As a result if you're at an advanced level, with a lot of experience or have read a lot, and are into a lot of detail and strategizing this isn't going to be for you. You'll get little from it.

A Concern - How Do You Need to Learn?

It provides general guidelines and general ideas and expects you to be able to get down to the details. For this reason its an ideal book for someone who already has experience with game but doesn't understand 'social circle game' or is getting frustrated with his game not working on the college campus.

It would also be useful for someone who is just starting out learning about dating and who is on colledge campus - it gives you an intro into what sort of things you'll learn about approaching women that aren't going to work well on a college campus. That could help you avoid a lot of problems if that is your situation.

U.S. Campus-Centric Advice

If you are outside the U.S. some of the cultural details won't be relevant to you, but in most countries there are similarities - or similar structures so you should be able to get some value from these sections by thinking a bit about how they reflect on your specific situation.

The general rules of course remain the same to a large extent - college and university has many commonalities all over the world.

Could Have Been Pushed Further

It leaves you feeling that there is more to learn. Having said that, if you apply the 80/20 rule - the material in this book is already most of what you need - it just doesn't contain the top spire.

The Bottomline

It doesn't teach you the basics of attracting women or areas like confidence and inner game - those are something you'll also have to learn to make the most of this.

Don't expect a lot of examples or details of exactly what to do in this book - it has more advice on the spirit of what to do rather than the exact actions.

I'm not an expert with Japanese women, I've only had 4 Japanese girlfriends over the years and spent just a few weeks in Tokyo itself. However, I do know Asia and Asians well, and I feel this is enough to give you a perspective on this book and its value - I recognise and have experienced all of the challenges the authors bring up. They covered most situations that I've come across, with a couple of exceptions that I'll detail below.

Comprehensive Cultural Education

This will help you to avoid many 'faux pas' in Japanese culture, which is your biggest concern. It will also enable you to make things smoother, which is something that Japanese women love - and respect - because it makes them feel more comfortable (an essential ingredient in dating).

There is a lot of tiny practical details to this, such as how girls like to communicate via email and phones (sekigaisen). This will allow you to eliminate the 'confusion' and 'misunderstanding' factor that your actions will have with Japanese women, which can easily sabotage a relationship before it gets started.

Practical to the Extreme

The authors have obviously spent a lot of time thinking about how to make this really implementable - and it is a real success. I'm not sure you could do much more in a book format to make it more easily implementable (audio and video products or a bootcamp can achieve more of course).

At times I wondered if they had actually taken the practicality too far, by going into the detail of exactly how you structure dates - but then I looked back to my beginnings with dating advice and realized how helpful they would be. Following these templates has both 'cultural uses' (ensure that you fit activities within norms so that the girl feels comfortable) and set the logisticis up right for a good conclusion to dates. This takes thought, and here they've taken the thought out for the beginner. Great.

To give you an example, they go into detail of how to use activities such as "Karaoke", Izukaya and so on. They tell you what doesn't work in these places, how long you should spend there, what cultural issues to avoid and so on. It really is a lot of detail. If you like guidance and rules to follow - you'll love this.

The date templates themselves are focused on Japan itself and the typical activities there - so that part will be most useful to you if you are going to Japan for holiday or you live/ are going to live there.

There is quite a bit of Japanese written and verbal words and phrases are given throughout. You'll find this a pretty good language learning assistance guide, as the vocabulary is a lot more relevant than that you learn with standard Japanese language learning books and courses - trust me, I'm a polyglost, I've been there.

Things Missed Out - Limitations of the Perspective of the Authors?

Judging by the comments made here and there about money, I'm going to make an assumption that the authors aren't making a lot of money in Tokyo and have a slightly limited social lifestyle. I'm not saying this to be rude, I think it's helpful background to their perspective which seems to be limited on some fronts.

Some of the places that weren't covered were the high end 'underground' clubs, the different styles of the districts in Tokyo, Shibuya and hosts.

For the high end 'underground' clubs are 'hidden' (for the exclusive effect, which I found intriguing), rather expensive, and operate on a different level which I didn't see discussed here. In these places I met the best looking Japanese women, and also the most challenging.

In each district of Tokyo, which I feel deserved more attention as most people will at least pass through there - and is the homeground of the authors - there is a completely different vibe. Roppongi is known for being more Guijin friendly, while Shibuya is a lot more Japanese. They did mention the business districts and their bars - but it sounds like the prices mean that the authors aren't experienced with them.

One of the implications of this, is that if you're the kind of guy who likes high status women, then there is more to learn beyond this book - it is an excellent start - but you'll need a lot more than the suggested practices to attract and date high class women. Part of the reason for this is that the book is 'shallow' on attraction. In reality, this isn't a big deal if you are not aiming for great women, because the advice they give you on it will take you far enough to attract most women - it will leave you still struggling with the higher class / quality women however.

It's a pity the authors didn't explain the whole 'hosts' dynamic in Japan - it is an interesting element, and as they mention is patently observable in Shibuya. There is a good TV documentary on it if you want to google it.

One last observation is that things can move a lot faster naturally than the authors let on. My personal 'limited' experiences and those of some of my travel companions in Japan were meeting girls and going home with them within the hour or them coming straight back to our place days later. I was surprised at how fast things escalate compared to other Asian cultures. And it was all very 'romantic' and natural, which was one of the things I loved about the place. The signs are subtle that this is what the Japanese girl is looking for, and there could have been more detail on this and picking up on it.

So overall, what I'm saying is, this is certainly great for beginners - but it remains too basic for those at an advanced level.

Maturity of the Advice

The knowledge and information is sensitive to their needs, while not being overly indulgent of them - it strikes a pretty good balance on most accounts - certainly very useful for beginners.

The Bottomline

If you are going to live in Japan or have just arrived, this book is a must to have as a reference. You'll read it more than once. It's worth buying just for the cultural education aspect. It will also cut your learning and frustration time with dating down hugely - no matter how experienced you are with dating and attracting women. Japan is different. This is the best guide we've seen to date on overcoming those differences.

The Authors Situation

Based on his writing he is an Asian American who is talking about Asian American girls (ABCs, ABKs, ABJs etc.). So in truth the book is more about his ideas on how to approach Asians who have grown up in the states - very different from Asians in their countries.

A Couple of Good Ideas

If from these points he had gone deeper instead of just transitioning to give you his version of the Mystery Method this could have been a useful book. Pity.

A Good Chunk of Mystery Method Thrown In

I'm guessing the author has read a lot of pick up artist community materials, because he uses a lot of its jargon without explaining it. For instance "Telegraphing Interest" a concept originated by Owen Cook is thrown many times with the reader expected to follow. But if you had already studied pick up artist materials, what would be the use in reading what you've copied from Mystery Method?

Limiting Beliefs Due to Insecurities

This is also where his rendition of Mystery Method really starts to go awry - he takes out the vital stuff that make it work. But it does mean giving your power away. And I guess he isn't (or wasn't) ready for that.

The Bottomline

He obviously writes from a lot of experience because he really gets how you should approach Asian women, and more importantly, what to avoid that Westerners see as normal but can sabotage things with Asian women.

Keep in mind this book relates to women who have grown up in Asia - Western born or grown up Asian girls may have some of these characteristics (from their parents) but act more like Western girls with western values.

Cultural Differences and their Impact on Dating

I had to laugh really because I've been through all of the situations Dean describes (for me in China and Thailand) and remember how confusing it all was at the time. If only this book had existed 7 years ago I could've saved myself a lot of puzzlement as to why my Western dating skills seemed to be backfiring in Asia.

While he talks about all Asian women, most of the attention is placed on Japanese and Filipino women where he seems to have the most experience. These are very different contrasting cultures in themselves lying at extremes of the Asian cultural sphere and as a result he captures Asian women pretty well. I don't want to give you the impression that he doesn't have experience and give advice about other nationalities (clearly not the case), but it is clear that these two nationalities are where he has the deepest experience.

Straightforward Dating Advice

There are some 'bonus' materials inserted from Love Systems which help to fill you in on key things you should understand if you are new to dating advice.

This is a great approach, some dating coaches spend too much time trying to reinvent the wheel - Dean Cortez has taken the smart approach here by partnering with Love Systems, which allows him to focus on giving the best Asian Women advice.

In particular I loved how straightfowrad Dean kept the advice - it really is a great course for beginners to start with. Not overly complicated.

Keep in mind however that he doesn't address meeting women in bars and clubs much which is a whole other ball game. The course focuses on the easier task of meeting women during the daytime.

Maturity and Wisdom

Dean very responsibly walks you through all the relevant topics to help you make 'mature' and rewarding decisions for your dating and relationship life with Asian women. This includes covering what Asian women are looking for, the different goals and ideas they may have depending on their backgrounds, the go-go bar and prostitute scenes and the scams and other things that go on. These sections of the book in itself could save so much heartache and men walking away with very bad experiences.

I know that when we have ideas in our mind about what we want - it can be hard to change those ideas from just reading something. However, if you get this book I urge you to really take on board Dean's advice. It all reflects the reality and you really will get the most out of the experience in the long term if you heed it.

Quick note: I personally would've liked to see more talk of the higher social classes in these countries as the approach can be quite different. Keep in mind that for girls from very good backgrounds (who tend to be wealthy) things will be more challenging than Dean has made it sound - nonetheless the information will all be helpful.

Any Weaknesses?

For longer term relationships with Asian women some of these issues would be really helpful to understand better:

1. Giving and receiving face. Big no-no situations to avoid and how it can affect your relationship via social pressure coming from outside. Personally I blew up a few long term relationships before really understanding this subject so I know its useful.


2. Explanations of different situations that come up and what they mean for example. In each culture getting invited to a family or friend's event can be a big deal or not. It depends on the event whether it be national holiday (e.g. Chinese New Year) or a wedding for example.

Another weakness of the course is that it is a little more 'filipino' focused than the other Asian nationalities. There is little to no coverage of Koreans, and the Chinese coverage is weaker also (also please note that India is not included in the coverage - this makes total sense since it is a culture apart and wouldn't fit with the rest).

Boosting these areas in the book up would make it a lot more comprehensive. From my own experiences I know there is other specific advice that would be really useful to anyone dating Chinese or Korean women.

The Bottomline

It is particularly slanted towards South East Asia, which is where it will come in most useful.

Note: If you are interested in Japan/ Japanese women specifically then his book is better - Japanese Girls - The Guide.

For South East Asia this book could save you years of stumbling around as you learn, upsetting the women or having them upset you. Until something better comes out for Chinese and Koreans it's your best guide for them also.

This is the only book that targets Korean women specifically, but unfortunately it is pretty weak.

A Good Point for the Beginner

Here lies one benefit of this book. Overall it doesn't try to teach you the things that won't work. Techniques like negs and cocky and funny for instance backfire terribly in Asia. There are exceptions, but for anyone 'still learning', these are irrelevant.

Is this a Full Dating Advice System or Some Specific Dating Advice for Koreans?

At the same time it provides basic advice that was popularized by these dating coaches, but because it hovers over it - it misses a lot of the depth out.

The end result is that this product is mediocre compared to t
This leaves it in the middle, not adding much overall value. It doesn't provide the detail and value of the original materials and also doesn't give specific advice that would've been new and valuable on Korean advice...

What About Korean Women?

More importantly it tells you very little about what doesn't work with Korean women (from typical Western approaches). It hints at it here and there, and talks about a few social dynamics, but provides very little detail - it skims the issues. In general, this is part of the issue with the overall book - there isn't much depth to it. It skips quickly over topics, not providing much value on any one of them.

It wets your appetite instead of really getting into it and giving you the full details.

The result: mediocre.

The Bottomline

It suffers from a lack of innovation and a 'content' targeting problem that I've seen many products suffer from lately. The writer saw that there is a gap in the market to teach men about Korean women (and Asian women in general).

While it doesn't provide specific Korean women advice, Secrets of Dating Asian Women will provide you far more insights than this book (Hint: Korean women are similar to Japanese women).

Both of these are relatively authentic, but keep everything upbeat by missing out on some of the gory details and take narration liberties here and there to improve the storyline.

"Nine Ball" is different in that it's extremely authentic and direct account of the worst of Jeffy's path to learn to get better with women. It includes all the gory details.

Meet The Dark Side of the Pick Up Arts

Some of the lows Jeffy goes through are relatively self destructive, and when he gets to a point where he sees the hate that a lot of women he has met have towards him he hits an all time low.

This is not unusual. It is a journey that has been repeated by many men, and for this reason the account can be invaluable reading to an open minded beginner - who wants to avoid the pitfalls of success.

Historic Run Through Older Pick Up Techniques

The point here is - it's great to see how it used to be, which is entertaining. However, don't expect to learn a lot that you will actually want to go out and apply from this book. Better. Take it as an example of a lot of paths that you can 'not walk down' thanks to someone having already done it for you - and explained where it leads.

The Bottom Line

Adam Brown deserves respect for stepping up to attempt this follow up. Neil Strauss was already a celebrated 'gonzo style' journalist and book writer before he wrote "The Game", and it was a 'first'. As with films, the first is always the easiest. The sequal takes more work to make a success. It's even more ambitious given that while Adam is an achieved journalist (primarily war correspondence) he hasn't written a book or in this style of writing before.

Having said this... let's get into the review.

The Origins of Adam Brown's Perspective

Neil Strauss evolved in the midst of a small-select group of the the best of the pick-up artist community when the 'community' was relatively small. In 2001, for instance, it still numbered only in the hundreds. And the active members were just a small segment.

Today, the community is enormous - having hundreds of thousands of members. That has through sheer numbers produced some very talented men. Adam Brown found his connection through the second "Project Rockstar" and Love Systems.

Adam Brown follows the members of Project Rockstar and the instructors, most notably Mr. M through their entire 2 month journey - and this is the story covered in this book.

Due to Adam's connection point, his perspective is highly influenced by Love Systems and their approach to dating and pick up. Readers should keep in mind that "Love Systems"is just one slice of the community. Through the community's enormity today it has created many factions and different methods - many of which are viable and effective. Adam Brown only learned about the Love Systems faction.

As a result, Love Systems is touted as the fasted growing dating company and built up a bit throughout - is this true? Maybe. Love Systems is big, and it has grown fast. But there are others. These include Venusian Arts, Double Your Dating, Real Social Dynamics and Dicarlo Diclassified. What I will say is Love Systems is run well - like a professional company, with solid foundations, and as a result is more likely to last and continue to grow than many of the hundreds of other dating companies.

Adam doesn't have the distance and perspective of the years of involvement that Neil Strauss had either. The Game came out in 2005 - Neil started down the road 6 years earlier in 1999.

In brief, Adam is looking at the community from an outsider's perspective, whereas Neil wrote about the community from an insider's perspective.

Getting Closer to the Truth

The community, or parts of it, have come a long way from their beginnings and where they were in 2003/ 2004 when the events in most of "The Game" took place. It has gained in maturity, in skills and some of its members today take-on much greater goals than just picking up women.

There remains a lot of crazy stuff out there, much like you read in The Game. In fact, some of it got a lot 'crazier' after The Game and hundreds of thousands of new members joined across the world.

But overall the community as a whole has made a lot of progress - in the quality of its aspirations, and in the quality of its content - the pick up, relationship, sex and other techniques and skills. The evolution has trended towards getting much better.

This is the story of Adam's book - and the reason this is a useful unofficial follow up to "The Game".

What Will You Learn?

There are bits of advice given here and there as the events are narrated from pick up instructors to the Rockstar members. There are also excerpts of Love Systems material at the beginning of each chapter. This will give you ideas about how the Love Systems approach to dating works, but not allow you to implement it. Overall, there is more dating advice than "The Game" had, but this isn't a book for learning dating skills.

What you may learn from this story is actually the same thing Neil Strauss attempted to convey in his book. What your end goal should be. By taking you through the experiences of the Project Rockstars, and reporting on the self-discoveries they make, and how their personal goals change from those they started with to bigger goals - it provides valuable insights.

Caveat: So far, I have not met anyone who has not had to go through the actual experiences in order to come to these conclusions themselves. This is nothing new, any philosophy book you pick up will talk about the necessity of the path vs. the goal. Simply reading about how others learned to change their goals doesn't seem enough for the majority of us to learn these important lessons - it's much easier to learn through direct experience - through the path.

Nonetheless, I do think that by having read these stories we do connect the dots quicker when we find our emotions telling us something isn't right - that something needs to change - and there's the value.

Entertainment Value vs. Sticking to the Truth

But I think it's better this way - it's part of why there's something to learn about the realities of the game here.

The Bottomline

Unlikely. The book isn't as entertaining, or groundbreaking as "The Game" was. As I said, it was an extremely ambitious goal.

I also personally found that it resembled too closely the structure and form of "The Game". From the pictures and notes strewn within it, to the excerpts included at the beginning of each chapter. It felt like it was following in the footsteps of its predecessor instead of taking a more original road.

I'm sure the book will stir up a lot of controversy with the more active community members and other companies about the 'selective bias' perspective I have highlighted above. Let's put that to the side - with Adam coming to the community externally and with it at its current size and diversity - it was inevitable.

I think the book has value as a tool for less active guys in the community or men who have read "The Game" and perhaps were put off by it - or didn't quite get it. This book could give men a better idea of what the end goals and benefits of studying and training with pick up artist (or dating) instructors is about today - and perhaps they will find it motivating. Stories are often the best sources of motivation.

Squirting 201 is also original in its own right - because instead of focusing on 'squirting' induced by hand stimulation, it moves to 'sexual intercourse'.

Failing on the Same Level - Teaching

In the case of Squirting 201 it is even harder however. Because it is much harder to make a girl squirt from sexual intercourse than via hand stimulation.

First, you would have to watch the original Squirting 101 to make the most of this - you would be better off with White Tiger Tantra though. This will give you insights into how to awaken the squirting ability in the girl.

Second, you have to transfer that to sexual intercourse. This video gives you insights into that, but it doesn't make it easy to learn.

It's also very likely that some of these girls or all of them were natural squirters or already knew how to squirt. This isn't very instructional for the watcher.

Ideally you would learn from the process of getting a girl to squirt for the first time and taking her on to the point where she can easily squirt via sexual intercourse.

It doesn't happen here. There's a gap in the market for a product that does do this. If anyone finds one please let us know.

The Bottomline

The teaching and video footage are sloppy (more porn like than educational), but you can learn some ideas from it if you know what you are doing. It's just far from efficient learning and not very instructional for the less experienced.

I was looking forward to reviewing this product as it has created a lot of buzz. However, it turned out to be a very disappointing product. Kind of like the big hyped movie that completely blows.

A lot of the material has been copied from another product, and it hasn't been copied well.

However, there are some good points, so let's stay positive for the moment.

Good Set of Sexual Positions

The positions they demonstrate are all really effective and practical for good sex. They do a pretty good job of explaining why each one works well and how to do it with a few minor exceptions.

This DVD would have been improved a lot if they'd gone into more detail, explaining why the positions work, exactly what the effect is and worked in more detail on them. They are passed over pretty quickly.

Lower Quality Version of 'The Sex God Method's Content

We spoke to 2 Girls Teach Sex Inc. about this and learned that Bobby Bradshaw (one of their founders) was previously Daniel Rose's partner. Thus the techniques and advice naturally became similar having originated from the history of Sex God Method.

Bobby Bradshaw presents most of this material in DVD 2 (Forbidden Sex Secrets) with "Jennifer" in interview like format and in the The Sexual Training Manual (which is shoddily and unprofessionally put together). If you've read Sex God Method you'll recognise the same methods and framework but with different branding.
Sex God Method is one of the best programs that has come out on sex, so if you're going to base your program off something else - it isn't a bad choice - however this implementation hasn't been done very well:

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  A lot of the best/ important information in SGM is missed out.


• There is less detail


• Both Bobby and Jennifer add in some irrelevant and bad advice here and there as well.

Innovative Marketing - But Useful for Learning?

Most guys like to watch lesbian sex - and would like to learn beter sexual skills - so combining them sounds great. They play this up by including some pure footage of the girls demonstrating sex (one with the advice commentary, one just for viewing and enjoyment).

The sexual demonstrations add some value - in DVD 3 for example. However, it would be better if it was a guy and a girl to show people the exact dynamic. One position was a bit unrealistic (The Bodyguard) as most girls are shorter than their guy partners and they don't stress the practical points of getting this to work (or demo it since the girls are of the right height to do this with each other). You get the idea.

Overall, the added value of the sexual demonstrations was disappointing - a lot more could be made of it with more preparation and thought put in. (Note: perhaps this is better in DVDs 4 - 6 - check back for our upcoming review).

Want to Watch Shawna Lenee?

So here's the run down of her part in the program. Shawna Lenee makes an appearance in about half of the videos.

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   1. On the first DVD in one simulated sex scene with "Jennifer"


2. 2. An interview with her for 45 minutes on DVD 5


3. 3. In a demonstration and discussion of squirting orgasms with "Hunter"

Issues with Calibration of Content

Overall it isn't good quality advice and is misleading. Let's just say the approach isn't very 'scientific' or well researched/ prepared and my feeling is that doesn't come from 'experience'. Bobby Bradshaw interviews Jessica and Shawna Lenee about what 'girls like' and their opinions.

Having been around I can tell you that the answers do not reflect the general population.

First, often what people think they like, what they say they like (marketing research shows we don't tell the truth, especially where it comes to sex and dating) and what they really respond to are different. This is why it is nearly always more useful to get advice from a guy experienced with women than from a woman herself. There are exceptions where very self-aware and highly perceptive women are concerned.

But a general safe rule in life is - learn from someone who 'makes the result happen', rather than someone who just observes it by seeing or experiencing the outcome. The person who made it happen - had to put the hard work in, and they are most likely doing things the others don't even see.

Second, there is a lot of selection bias involved here. The girls are porn stars which puts them in a top 0.25% extreme of the normal curve of society in terms of sexual preferences and experience. I can tell you that their responses simply don't reflect the reality of the situation. As an example, many girls I've met had not had an orgasm before they met me - that's representative of society and shown in survey statistics. Shawna Lenee says only 1 or 2 girls she met in her life hadn't had an orgasm - but then her social circle revolves around the top 0.25% extremity of sexual behavior.

Not representative to say the least.

The Squirting Orgasms Training

The problem here is that "Hunter" is not well positioned to give great advice on this - because she is a natural squirter. There are very very few women like this.

Squirting can be achieved with virtually all women based on my experience, but it DOES require specific techniques, and sometimes 'awakening her squirting ability' which takes a bit longer.

The techniques required are a lot more than is shown here, and there are some programs that have been out for a long time that teach it properly. The best is "White Tiger Tantra" by Steve Piccus (on expensive side), the cheaper and more frustrating to learn version is Squirting 101.

If you want to learn about squirting get one of those programs - this one won't help you much.

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Approaching dating as a lifestyle will enable you to get much higher quality women - if you are interested in the best - read on.

Lifestyle Investment vs. Short Term Temporary Fix

But in the end, this is all a short term fix. Unless you settle down into a relationship with one of the girls you meet, it requires a constant effort of 'meeting new women'. Investing your efforts in new relationships, that depending on the way you approach it could be very short term. For some guys just one night.

Think about that for a second.

How many hours do you typically invest in meeting a girl? Versus how long that relationship stays in your life - and continues to contribute value to it? Is that a good investment of your time?

The answer is 'no'.

Everyone who has learned dating skills over the long term knows this (all the guys I know that learned them over the last 10 years for example).

To take a financial analogy...

It's like an 'expense' of your time. Never recoverable. Gone forever, and will reap no future rewards.

An investment on the other hand, reaps future value and rewards. It is the only way to 'get rich'.

In the social world, it is similar. You can invest in relationships that contribute to your life by bringing you more relationships and making it easier to meet high quality women and attract them.

You can actually invest less time in the future to get better results. As with the finance world, this is how the most successful people do it.

And this is what Social Circle Game is about.

This product requires you to invest 6 months (reasonable estimate) to build a social circle and lifestyle that brings you more quality friends, other value such as access to good clubs and events, and of course the higher quality women.

It requires sacrifice in the short term as all 'investing' does.

In the finance world we save and spend less to use the money for investment. In this scenario you will forego short term opportunities with women (choose to make them friends instead of girlfriends) for the greater goal of building a social circle asset in your life over the long term.

Advanced Only: 80% Strategy, 20% Tactics

In Braddock's own words from the DVD:

"This whole seminar assumes abundance."

This is where the abundance mentality comes in: You can't be in need of a girlfriend now, or sleeping with a girl now in this program. It has a higher 'longer term' purpose.

If you are looking to date that one girl that you really like, this isn't the product for you. It is a product that aims to help you change your life, and not about changing the 'story' of you with any one girl.

Most of the product is at the strategy end of the equation.

Braddock explains how social circles work, how to build them over time and what the end goals are. While he does discuss some of the biggest issues you may have in social circles (e.g. where a guy is interfering with your efforts, or a girl-relationship goes wrong and you ) at the tactical level - that's to say giving you the practical cues on what to do, how to say it etc. 80% of the content in this DVD program is about strategy.

It's about how you need to approach building a social circle, the goals, and the action plans.

If you don't have the basic social and dating skills already - get them first, then come back here.

Great Teaching - Clear, Simple and Memorable

From the analogies they use (i.e. Everyone can relate to a the X-Box Halo power bar, branches on trees, and spider webs) to the overall structure of their system it is all clear and to the point.

The foundation of the program is the great structure they have come up with. All strategies near a clear memorable framework, and they have come up with something that is easy to relate to - and isn't 'overwhelming'. They keep the total number of concepts to a minimum, which will help guys to focus on just getting the work done - rather than getting caught up in concepts.

Braddock also brings a good speaking - relaxed - style to the DVDs. Most guys will also find him 'inspiring' as he obviously has a passion for his work. That's a bonus too.

Note: While Mr. M created the Social Circle Mastery program with Braddock, you won't see him on the DVD program - the DVD footage was taken from one of the seminars that Braddock did by himself.

What Could Improve this Program

• - More tactical and situational examples to bring it more to life and facilitate implementation. A big situational example that comes to mind is how to approach clubs more specifically (as they are an important part of the social puzzle) .


• - What are the end goals that you could pursue? This would be more motivatory (give people more clarity) and just give them a higher level view of where social mastery can take people (very far...).
  
• - A bit of time is spent on calibrating to the social circle dynamics, but I felt that more was needed. I've read some other good material from the 'business world' that would have plugged in nicely here to give guys a clear example of when they can take things forward, or when they have to do more work. The 'gaming girls' was well covered, I'm talking about the 'building the social circle' side of the equation.

The All Important Implementation Part

I was glad to see that the last section in this DVD was "Action Plan". Braddock briefly takes you through what you should aim to do over 6 months and what your expectations should be. This was really needed - and could have been expanded upon potentially.

For instance, including questions and answers from the audience would've been a great addition here. As I'm sure that many people in the seminar had useful 'common questions'.

Nonetheless, if you have basic dating skills this isn't too hard to implement - they've kept it simple enough and laid out the steps. It will require an investment of effort.

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The Bottom Line

This is the best of the few programs we've seen that have come out on the subject of building a lifestyle and social circle. Building a dating asset in your life. It's an excellent addition to the world of dating skills, and we're giving it a solid "Editor's Choice" stamp of approval.

Caveat: If you don't already have reasonable dating skills - don't jump on this till you do. You won't be able to implement the strategies without the basic dating skills. The purpose of this program is to take your dating and social life to a much higher level and reduce the investment of time you need to put in over time.

Both of these are relatively authentic, but keep everything upbeat by missing out on some of the gory details and take narration liberties here and there to improve the storyline.

"Nine Ball" is different in that it's extremely authentic and direct account of the worst of Jeffy's path to learn to get better with women. It includes all the gory details.

Meet The Dark Side of the Pick Up Arts

Some of the lows Jeffy goes through are relatively self destructive, and when he gets to a point where he sees the hate that a lot of women he has met have towards him he hits an all time low.

This is not unusual. It is a journey that has been repeated by many men, and for this reason the account can be invaluable reading to an open minded beginner - who wants to avoid the pitfalls of success.

Historic Run Through Older Pick Up Techniques

The point here is - it's great to see how it used to be, which is entertaining. However, don't expect to learn a lot that you will actually want to go out and apply from this book. Better. Take it as an example of a lot of paths that you can 'not walk down' thanks to someone having already done it for you - and explained where it leads.

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