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Reviewed by Syboh Seven
Last updated: December 16, 2009
The Good: One of the most popular dating products out there. Great advice on women’s psychology and the ideal attitudes for dating success. Clear explanations in simple language, easy to understand and relate to for any guy, no matter how little experience or success you've had with women.
The Bad: Not as advanced as many of the newer products out there. Does not teach much about cold approaching women.
Cocky and funny, the technique emphasized for attraction, is good for beginners but becomes a liability if overused for intermediate or advanced level guys.
The Bottom Line:This book is excellent as a starting point, a great foundation for beginners.
It is written with the beginner's perspective in mind, so you do not need any previous experience to understand it. It takes you by the hand and leads you through the basics of attraction and women.
If you are unsure about this whole dating advice thing, you will feel comfortable with this. It is down to earth, takes a very 'self development' approach and will definitely open your eyes to many things you did not understand before.
A Classic, Still Relevant
The original Double Your Dating ebook came out in 2001 and was one of the first ebooks to give real, quality dating advice to men.
Since then many more advanced dating products have been released. Compared to what you COULD learn about women and dating, this could be considered basic. Yet, this ebook is still one of the most popular “first reads” for beginners. It is still being described as life-changing by many. It is also the first book that many “advanced”, experienced guys recommend to their friends who are just getting started.
We recommend this ebook for complete beginners.
Simple Language, No Nonsense Approach
The reason for this is its simple language and no nonsense approach. The author, David DeAngelo, explains everything in a way that any guy can relate to. All the points and theories build on each other, and the reader is taken by the hand on a journey of awakening.
Bit by bit, he learns about women’s psychology and why most guys do not understand it. Common mistakes are pointed out. Counter-productive beliefs and attitudes are explained in detail.
Every point makes sense and is easily acceptable and applicable to any guy, no matter how little experience he has with women.
“Acceptable” is an important word here, because many advanced products are a bit too “out there” for beginners (Swinggcat's Real World Seduction comes to mind). Many people like (or NEED) to get into dating advice gradually, and this is why this book is still popular today.
A great deal of the book is about psychology. From the female perspective: how women work and what women want. From the male perspective: the mindset you need to become successful with women and the behaviors to avoid. This is all well explained and most of the big psychological dynamics are covered.
On the practical side, the book relies mostly on the “Cocky & Funny” approach, which works but is a bit limited. On cold approaching, sustaining great conversations, and dating strategies, better products are out there, although the content presented here is still good.
A Note on Cocky & Funny Techniques
"Cocky & Funny" is David DeAngelo's trademark advice. It is a conversational technique to be used to generate attraction with women. The approach is very well suited for beginners, because it tends to correct exactly the bad approaches to conversation that they have been using with women.
However, at an intermediate or advanced level, when you have improved your other dating skillsets, using Cocky & Funny can actually hurt your success with women.
A particular issue is where men use Cocky & Funny as a crutch, and use it all the time in their conversations with women - this tends to be over the top and actually drive women away. So if you are of intermediate or advanced level, we don't recommend getting this ebook. You have in a sense, already moved beyond its usefulness.
As a beginner, however, the total opposite is true. Using cocky & funny techniques help to compensate for other things you are doing wrong, but are unaware of, and are more subtle and complex. So men who are beginners and apply the technique get very good responses for women, and become a lot more attractive, which is a great start on your path to dating mastery.
Self Development Approach to Dating Advice
If you are unsure about this whole dating advice thing, and it seems weird or even a bit creepy to you, you will feel comfortable with Double Your Dating.
David DeAngelo has become a self development guru over time, and has himself approached dating advice from a very down to earth angel. As a result, this dating advice is very easy to accept and not as extreme as other dating advice. As a result, men tend to find it easy to start from David DeAngelo's products.
The eBook Bonuses - Disappointing
The bonuses contains some very basic advice which is less useful than the main ebook. If you are truly a beginner to all this you will find some practical advice on sex and relationships. However, anyone who is of intermediate level, or has read other books probably won't find much at all.
Also, the "8 Personality Types that Naturally Attract Women" ebook doesn't contain any information that is of practical use. And arguably could even be misleading - skip this bonus book, better to put your time in rereading the main ebook again.
The Bottom Line
Overall, this book is excellent as a starting point, and a great foundation for beginners. It is written with the beginner’s perspective in mind, so you do not need any previous experience or success with women to understand it.
The ebook will definitely open your eyes to many things you did not consider before and will enable you to start changing your behaviors and significantly improve your dating life.
Table of Contents/ List of Topics Covered:
The book is broken down into three parts and 9 chapters:
Part 1: How To Think About Success With Women
Chapter 1: Women Don't Make Sense
Chapter 2: How I Discovered What Works With Women
Part 2: How To Communicate With Women
Chapter 3: How To Develop A Personality That Is Irresistible To Women
Chapter 4: How To Use Communication And Humor To Attract Women
Chapter 5: On Looks and Body Language
Part 3: Exactly What, When, And How
Chapter 6: The Basics Of Style and Class, Plus More On How To Fascinate Women
Chapter 7: Where and How To Meet Women
Chapter 8: Getting Physical
Chapter 9: Keeping Her Attracted To You, Or â€œHow To Have a Long Term Relationship
What You Get:
The Double Your Dating e-book + 3 bonus e-books
Bonus e-books are:
- Sex Secrets
- The 8 Personality Types that Naturally Attract Women
Guarantee / Terms: 7 days return policy before you get charged for the purchase of the ebook.
21 of 23 people found the following review helpful
"Why I think David D. is the best"
This my review for David D.'s "Mastery Program", adapted. See below for "Double Your Dating" section.
Okay, maybe "best" isn't quite the right word. To me it's the bedrock on which "technique-heavy" stuff must sit.
What he teaches is congruent with Mystery, Savoy, etc., but addresses core fundamentals that, to me, MUST be learned before the Mystery Method or Magic Bullets will work to begin with.
Now, this may NOT be true of ALL people.
If you're already a confident, SOCIABLE person, who has success in other areas of your life but is only experiencing problems when faced with a woman, or who has certain success dating already but want to IMPROVE your game, The Mystery Method or Magic Bullets, may in fact be all you need.
But if you're someone like me, who's good having conversations with women but has other issues (overly sensitive; SO nice to women they disregard you for reasons you find baffling, but don't want to become a jerk), DeAngelo is where you should start. It will also help areas of your life NOT related to women.
It's that deep.
More about how I to got to David D.:
SOBRIETY AND RELATIONSHIPS
After a breakup from a 4-year relationship, and being sober for 9 years, I found I'd lost the "bad boy" energy that used to bring me success with women. My program of sobriety stresses service and lack of resentment, which have served me very well in having a wonderful, productive life, but REALLY hurt my ability to interact with women.
I desperately needed a way to redraw my boundaries with people (women especially, obviously) in a way that was true to myself, true to my ideals, and yet didn't leave me hopelessly wussed-out.
I started with books by Logan Edwards (The A Game), which sounded GREAT on paper, but somehow didn't get me "feeling" the concepts, just thinking, "oh yeah, this is how I SHOULD feel."
Moved on to The Mystery Method, but I don't like memorizing routines, although it did give me more important information on evolutionary psychology, how value differential worked, etc. etc. Very good stuff. (Magic Bullets, which I've just started, is also quite, quite good.)
Got the Mystery "Revelation" DVD / CD set, which gave me a bunch more attitude tips and helped reinforce many of the concept in The Mystery Method.
Yet, I STILL found myself placating, being overly nice, speaking too fast "in field," and BOMBING with women.
DOUBLE YOUR DATING REVIEW
For the value, this can't be beat.
I thought "Double Your Dating" was such a vague / lame title, I put off buying this until after I'd read The Mystery Method, seen Revelation, etc.
I'm SO, SO happy I finally got this, because all the techniques in the world couldn't help me without the "core beliefs" down.
As soon as I read this, I breathed a BIG sigh of relief. It was like, "YES, FINALLY I understand." Not what to THINK, but what to FEEL. It's hard to describe.
I can't speak any more highly about this product. It's the piece of the of the puzzle I was desperately needing, and I already feel the difference. THANK YOU David D., you are a good man.
The lower editor reviews here do poor service to this product, but I suspect it's because they already KNOW these core concepts.
If you DON'T have these concepts ingrained, in my experience the other techniques will be of limited value, or take much longer to implement.
It's one thing to give a man fishing tips but leave him in a shallow pond; it's quite another to lead a man to an ocean of INNER abundance and then say: "Now fish."
One more time, David D., if you ever read this: THANK YOU!
David D's Double Your Dating and the other books that come with it have really helped me.
I had been out of the workforce for a couple of years due to a serious accident right before my graduation. The accident also cost me my childhood dream career and forcing me back to school again on a part-time basis. I became very self concious about my situation and stopped trying to date.
Then, last year, as I was making some physical progress, came to accept the situation with my injuries and was able to work part-time, I decided to pick up David D's Double your Dating (I had just seen the Pick Up artist, but couldn't afford Magic Bullet) only to have my father die which set me back on some of the inner game advances that I had made.
About the time my father died, I read David D's book, but I thought he was full of bull about not needing money. Then, I saw first hand someone without a job get and keep a hot looking woman without needing to take her out on expensive dates, etc. And, I started to believe.
A short time later, I started applying the C&F stuff on one of the female students for practice. She is lots of fun. Nice personality. Nice face. The body not so much, imo (however, she dates musicians and lawyers so go figure). She started coming around a lot and getting very flirtacious and touchey.
I took time to work on myself and my situation.
With school starting back up, I started applying the C&F with some of the women at both of my jobs.
Over the past few weeks, I have had:
- an attractive 20 year old student invite me to a party and, most recently, promising me a plate of Tamales after I started teasing her. She's a little young for me, but the practice is good.
- a 26 year old hot African American co-worker, who eats the C&F and can't keep her hands off me. She walked behind me the other day while I was talking to a supervisor and dragged her finger lightly along my shoulders, she always tells me I am so nice until I bust on her at which point she'll tell me I am either mean or a hellion and hits me playfully (well, she catches herself and stops before making contact).
Today, we went to lunch. I let her pay for herself (which would not have happened before reading David D's book and these boards) . She lost track of time and I realized she was going to be late getting back to work.
As we walked out, I did a little compliance test. When she asked, what I was doing, I told her it was a "trust test" and explained how she was letting my hand lead hers, because she trusted me. She liked it and was impressed.
Then, I said goodybe and turned away to leave. She grabbed me and pulled me back into a tight embrace.
She confessed that she can't wait until Monday to see me at work.
- the first student (the one that was getting flirtacious and touchey), whom I had not seen in 3 months, returned on Thursday to tell me her divorce was going through and hinting that she wants to go out.
- As I left the soon to be divorcee in the lab, I met a hot fillipino lady. I held the door open and I made comment when she thanked me (I don't recall what it was). She turned, stopped, and doubled back to talk to me. She gave me her name and told me the deptartment where I can find her on Tuesday. I should have done the email routine to get her number, but I was in a hurry and know where to find her.
Admittedly, I still have a long way to go. However I am already farther that I was this time a year ago. And, I owe my progress to David D's books and, to a lesser extent, both the Pick Up Artist and the Magic Bullet previews for changing my outlook.
It is very easy to understand, and A LOT of information
Nothing bad about it
This was my introduction to this whole dating advice world, and it's a really good book.
If I had started with Mystery Method I'm not sure I would have continued but this one was just the right balance of GREAT advice that makes you go OH MY GOD but at the same time not too extreme for a newbie to accept. Kind of like what the review said.
I bought a few David De Angelo products after and they were good also, but for the price this is really the best. It's the foundation of everything David talks about in other products also, and also the same principles most other guru talk about. If you read this you'll be 80% done already.
Actually if you don't want to become a "pick up artist", you just want to get a girlfriend a be a better dude with women, this is almost all you need. I know because I bought this for my best friend for his birthday 2 years ago and it changed his life. He doesn't cold approach or anything but he is much better with the girls he meets at work, social circles, etc.
Just finished the Double Your Dating ebook. It was excellent! DD's stuff is an excellent supplement to the VAH, especially if you are in the early stages of your game. I've read these two books, plus The Game.
The Game is just a super fun ready that if you comb through, you can take away a ton of great stuff. VAH is like a manual for the MM. David D's book is more common sense info that reinforces in my head all the points that Mystery makes. MM is more of a system and David D is more of an attitude adjustment thing. Taking them together, I'm feeling light years ahead in tems of getting this thing "handled".
Simple, easy to understand information that when applied will do what the title of the book suggests.
This came out quite a few years ago and alot of the info is not as groundbreaking as it was back then.
This is one of the first things I read upon finding the seduction community. Just by reading David DeAngelo's free e-mails and this book my success with women immediately improved. There is nothing complicated in here, and after reading it you think to yourself 'this is so obvious, why didn't I figure this out sooner?'
Double Your Dating sets you on the path to being a natural with women. It doesn't focus on all the technical details and over-complicated formulas of some dating gurus, it gets down to the basics. It helps to give you the right mindest and outlook on your interactions with women and clues you in as to what really causes attraction.
I went from being incredibly nervous around women to being able to flirt with ease after I adopted the principles in this book. Another benefit of the book was that I started having a lot more fun when talking to women, which made everything flow that much more smoothly.
A lot of good TECHNIQUES but this stuff isn't really based around any kind of system you can constantly use to practice or base your lifestyle off of. It's mainly just techniques and what to do in certain situations. It tells you what women are attracted to, but it really doesn't tell you HOW to convey these qualities. As i read this i was thinking "oh thats pretty clever, good" i never got to a point where i read something and went "THATS IT! thats brilliant!!"
can't recommend the book. only basic, general tips inside. and absolutely NO examples! its also written in a dry way and some stuff is outdated by now. absolutely no new stuff inside. there are much better books out there nowadays.
David Deangelo is really a fenomenally good writer...DYD is just awesome; start with it and read it again when you are further down the process; everything you didn't understand before, you will understand now.