A debate has been going on for a long time in "dating advice for men" circles: when talking to women, should you use a direct method (just tell her you like her and take it from there) or an indirect way (just ask a neutral question and tell stories first)?

Is it better to be natural, focus on having fun and attract her with your cool vibe? (the way suggested by Real Social Dynamics, Paul Janka, Vin DiCarlo, Zan Perrion, Charisma Arts, etc)

Or should you have a strict game plan to follow and strategize every step of the way? (the way suggested by Love Systems, Venusian Arts, Mehow, etc)

At DatingSkillsReview.com, we have an informed opinion on the matter, because we have reviewed a lot of the products out there (and have been in the game for years ourselves). We believe some key facts have been missing from the debate so far.

First, you need to separate the effectiveness in learning from the effectiveness in applying the advice.

When you first get into attraction advice, it can be difficult to separate the good from the bad, the right from the wrong.

One thing that I see confusing beginners is how diverse the advice can be, depending on the guru.

Some will tell you to go to bars and practice talking to a lot of women (Venusian Arts, Mehow).

Others will tell you to mostly avoid bars and focus on meeting women in your daily life (Paul Janka, Gunwitch)....